Speed cameras really are expanding

Sgt.Bungers said :

I guess mobile speed camera operators are exempt from ARR under clause 1b of the law?

i expect they’re exempt, because i’ve seen those vans park on northborne (in the middle bit) all the time

midlife said :

Please can I have one in my street in Evatt. Every 3rd or 4th car would be exceeding the speed limit, so it would probably satisfy the revenue raising criteria.

Not if its as blatantly obvious as the speed camera above.

THE BASTARDS!!!!

Go up to them and take better shots, and inside the van, not just outside. Examine these things more closely.

Sgt.Bungers said :

I feel sorry for the person trying to get out of the driveway immediately in front of the van… drivers coming down the street will have their eyes on their speedo, driver coming out of the driveway can’t see around the van without putting their vehicles nose out into the street…

And therein lies the difference between an attentive and aware driver that is focused on the job and some farkwit wanker that passed a very brief test once.

Farkwit: Laughing his head off at this mornings phone prank or whatever stupid shit they do on commercial radio these days, pulls up to the edge of the road and cant see past the van so tells his 3 kids under 5 in the backseat that ‘farking pigs are stoopid’ then plants it hoping there is no-one coming.

Driver using worlds last ounce of common sense: See’s the van so keeps an eye on traffic movements as they approach the road. Stop 3 metres short of the edge of the road which gives them a clear view of the street where they can wait for a suitable space to pull out, pausing momentarily at the kerb to ensure no-one is suddenly walking out from behind the van. Radio station irrelevant.

Interesting article on a court challenge in Vicoria: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/police-officer-challenges-speeding-fine-in-county-court/story-e6frf7kx-1226003271169

Sgt.Bungers said :

Australian Road Rule 197:

197 Stopping on a path, dividing strip, nature strip or painted island

(1) A driver must not stop on a bicycle path, footpath, shared path or dividing strip, or a nature strip adjacent to a length of road in a built-up area, unless:

(a) the driver stops at a place on a length of road, or in an area, to which a parking control sign applies and the driver is permitted to stop at that place under the Australian Road Rules; or

(b) the driver is permitted to stop under another law of this jurisdiction.

I guess mobile speed camera operators are exempt from ARR under clause 1b of the law? …

Reckon you’re right, Sgt. If I remember rightly there’s a land title dimension to it as well. I recall the plod in Queensland used to hide (oh yeah . . . they literally do hide up there) in a sort of layaway on Sir Fred Schonell Drive, picking off hapless uni students on their way to UQ. That was until a town planning student got pinged, did a titles search, and discovered that the ‘layaway’ was in fact part of a private tenure and not even remotely crown land or even road reserve (from which plod had authority to operate). Lots of refund cheques ensued.

Please can I have one in my street in Evatt. Every 3rd or 4th car would be exceeding the speed limit, so it would probably satisfy the revenue raising criteria.

verbalkint said :

trickyxr said :

There will definetly be a camera inside, And it is about revenue raising

But if it was just about revenue raising, wouldn’t they only focus on those areas that had high volumes of high speed traffic, rather than relatively quiet suburbs streets like this one (and many, many others)?

Your argument just doesn’t make any sense at all.

I like to think that govco has thought about things a bit, and instead of using cameras as revenue raisers is starting to put them in places where speeding is a real problem.

Perhaps I’m being naive, but using cameras as a tool to maintain sensible speeds in suburban streets seems more effective to me than plonking them on major thoroughfares where people typically drive a few km over the limit anyway.

trickyxr said :

There will definetly be a camera inside, And it is about revenue raising

But if it was just about revenue raising, wouldn’t they only focus on those areas that had high volumes of high speed traffic, rather than relatively quiet suburbs streets like this one (and many, many others)?

Your argument just doesn’t make any sense at all.

georgesgenitals said :

Good on ’em for getting into residential streets.

Yep. Like to see them on Mapleton Ave Harrison. I receive lots of complaints from residents there.
As I said last week, the easy way to target this is to put the monitor cords out for a week, then the radar can go in at precisely the times when the worst offenders are usually out.

And dare I surmise, that will most often be around school pick-up times, with many of the offenders being local residents?

Davo111 said :

Not really that difficult to spot. I suspect they’re used as a visual deterrent, rather than actual revenue raising. Probably find they dont even have cameras in them 😛

Davo111 said :

Not really that difficult to spot. I suspect they’re used as a visual deterrent, rather than actual revenue raising. Probably find they dont even have cameras in them 😛

There will definetly be a camera inside, And it is about revenue raising

Australian Road Rule 197:

197 Stopping on a path, dividing strip, nature strip or painted island

(1) A driver must not stop on a bicycle path, footpath, shared path or dividing strip, or a nature strip adjacent to a length of road in a built-up area, unless:

(a) the driver stops at a place on a length of road, or in an area, to which a parking control sign applies and the driver is permitted to stop at that place under the Australian Road Rules; or

(b) the driver is permitted to stop under another law of this jurisdiction.

I guess mobile speed camera operators are exempt from ARR under clause 1b of the law? I feel sorry for the person trying to get out of the driveway immediately in front of the van… drivers coming down the street will have their eyes on their speedo, driver coming out of the driveway can’t see around the van without putting their vehicles nose out into the street…

Good on ’em for getting into residential streets.

Not really that difficult to spot. I suspect they’re used as a visual deterrent, rather than actual revenue raising. Probably find they dont even have cameras in them 😛