Teen car thieves collared

I hate this term “bad kid”, they are not “bad” they have just made bad decisions and engaged in damaging behaviours.
I work with these young people, and as much as people may argue that parents are not always to blame I can say that after 10 years in the youth justice and child protection field they 9 times out of 10 these young people do come from homes where there is neglect, abuse and drugs or alcohol addictions within the home. They have absent parents who are so caught up in their own lives/drugs that their children seek attachment and connection outside of the family home, this is usually with other youths who have similar backgrounds. When you have rejected, abused and angry young people then these criminal activities are often the choice of fun.

So before judging them, calling them “scum” why not look at where they have learnt these behaviours from and why they feel the need to engage in antisocial behaviours.

Stevian – I’m not disputing that incompetent parents can raise bad kids. No where have I said that. I’m saying that not every bad kid is the result of bad parenting. I’m saying that there can be other reasons a teenager makes dangerous and reckless decisions, you can’t always assume it’s because the parents are bad.

If you can’t see the difference in the two then I’m afraid I really can’t dumb it down any more for you.

All opinions aside, I notice you say that incompetent parents will produce bad kids and that this is incontravertible. Can you produce proof (sources, studies, etc) to support this claim? Because the only way that statement can be incontravertible is if you have evidence that shows every single incompetent parent has produced only bad children, that no children of incompetent parents ever turn out to be good kids. And I would love to see the study on that…

Timberwolf65 said :

creative_canberran said :

Take their dead beat parents and handcuff them to these scumbags.

Seriously, I bet a lot of people jump to the conclusion that the kids sneak out. I think it’s more likely the parents either know (“Hey ma, gonna boost sum wheels”) or choose complicit ignorance.

Do you actually have kids?

I do, and I knew when they were doing right or wrong. They werent angels but we knew. Didnt destroy other peoples property like these clowns. Agree, tie the parents to the kids and send them to Malaysia

Stevian said :

Timberwolf65 said :

creative_canberran said :

Take their dead beat parents and handcuff them to these scumbags.

Seriously, I bet a lot of people jump to the conclusion that the kids sneak out. I think it’s more likely the parents either know (“Hey ma, gonna boost sum wheels”) or choose complicit ignorance.

Do you actually have kids?

To ask that you must have kids that you can’t control, which means you are a incompetent parent.

Another judgmental, kid-less know it all has raised his ugly head, do not judge me you do not know me.

Angelina said :

Stevian said :

Timberwolf65 said :

creative_canberran said :

Take their dead beat parents and handcuff them to these scumbags.

Seriously, I bet a lot of people jump to the conclusion that the kids sneak out. I think it’s more likely the parents either know (“Hey ma, gonna boost sum wheels”) or choose complicit ignorance.

Do you actually have kids?

To ask that you must have kids that you can’t control, which means you are a incompetent parent.

And to say that means you must know every parent of every naughty teenager in Canberra and the surrounding regions because that’s the only way you could possibly make that judgment…oh wait, you don’t! You must just be full of crap then.

It’s simple logic an incompetent carpenter produces a bad table, an incompetent parent produces bad kids. It’s incontravertible.

Occur. Damnit!

Stevian said :

Timberwolf65 said :

creative_canberran said :

Take their dead beat parents and handcuff them to these scumbags.

Seriously, I bet a lot of people jump to the conclusion that the kids sneak out. I think it’s more likely the parents either know (“Hey ma, gonna boost sum wheels”) or choose complicit ignorance.

Do you actually have kids?

To ask that you must have kids that you can’t control, which means you are a incompetent parent.

And to say that means you must know every parent of every naughty teenager in Canberra and the surrounding regions because that’s the only way you could possibly make that judgment…oh wait, you don’t! You must just be full of crap then.

My husband stole cars (and other things) in his youth. He was insanely wild and stupid and his parents weren’t terrible, white trash bogans. For a while they just didn’t realise what was going on because he and his mates didn’t get caught. They thought he was at friends places whose parents in turn thought their kids were at his place, etc and being that they were good people who thought he was a good kid it didn’t even ocur to them not to trust him.

By the time he did get caught he was determined to follow that path, he left home when they tried to control him and they lost contact with him for ages.

He turned out alright in the end and is now extremely successful. It’s quite likely that one of the reasons he ended up righting himself is that his parents were good people and underneath all of his stupidity there were still glimmers of their morals and ethics. But it’s foolish to try and blame his parents for his actions. In fact that’s one of the defences you would publicly cry out against if these kids tried to use it in court!

It’s quite possible that these kids’ parents do suck, but you have absolutely no way of knowing that.

Plenty of kids stole cars in my year at Radford, they were just smart enough to not get caught.

Angelina said :

Really though, It is possible for people to be good parents who happen to end up with shitty kids or kids who make bad decisions. It doesn’t mean they’re all bad parents. Some of them are, but some of them aren’t.

Thank you for injecting some common sense into the stream of ignorance.

creative_canberran said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Henry82 said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Do you actually have kids?

So you think that the parents dont know what their kids are doing? I’m sure repeated visits to the police station would be a fair indicator.

Having said that, my parent knew exactly what i was up to, whether or not i told them. Its not rocket science to work out if your kid is a trouble maker.

Just wondering if creative_canberran actually is a parent….of teenagers, implying the parents of these kids are deadbeats…he/she has either not had kids or has raised perfect children.

lol, permit me to translate Timberwolf’s comments thus far:

“Yo, yous mofos dun tell me wadda do wit ma young’ns if you dun have youse own. Ma young’ns do wat dey wanna, ain’t no homies gonna tell me dey can’t bag a car”.

Well said

Timberwolf65 said :

creative_canberran said :

Take their dead beat parents and handcuff them to these scumbags.

Seriously, I bet a lot of people jump to the conclusion that the kids sneak out. I think it’s more likely the parents either know (“Hey ma, gonna boost sum wheels”) or choose complicit ignorance.

Do you actually have kids?

To ask that you must have kids that you can’t control, which means you are a incompetent parent.

Well done the Plod and that member of the public. I’m sure they’ll get a wrist-slapping and a finger-wagging.

I haven’t even hit thirty yet and I would never have dreamed of stealing a car. I grew up in a smallish town on the coast and on the few occasions we did something stupid, like the night we stole about 40 trolleys from coles adn pushed them into the sea pool, the cops gave us a berating and marched us home where Mum smacked us for being stupid. The next mornign the cops came and picked us up and made us go down the sea pool with our diving gear and fish every last trolley out. Took the whole Saturday to do that.

But banning smacking is a good idea because it doesn’t work…..pffft.

Angelina said :

creative_canberran said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Henry82 said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Do you actually have kids?

So you think that the parents dont know what their kids are doing? I’m sure repeated visits to the police station would be a fair indicator.

Having said that, my parent knew exactly what i was up to, whether or not i told them. Its not rocket science to work out if your kid is a trouble maker.

Just wondering if creative_canberran actually is a parent….of teenagers, implying the parents of these kids are deadbeats…he/she has either not had kids or has raised perfect children.

lol, permit me to translate Timberwolf’s comments thus far:

“Yo, yous mofos dun tell me wadda do wit ma young’ns if you dun have youse own. Ma young’ns do wat dey wanna, ain’t no homies gonna tell me dey can’t bag a car”.

Very creative, Cross between Deliverance and Get rich or die trying:) I am guessing you don’t have kids.

That’s just a terrible impersonation, it’s like a mix between ghetto-street from Law & Order and the head-maid from Gone With the Wind. I used to live southside (2905 represent) and I don’t recall running into anyone that spoke like that!

Really though, It is possible for people to be good parents who happen to end up with shitty kids or kids who make bad decisions. It doesn’t mean they’re all bad parents. Some of them are, but some of them aren’t.

Angelina, good comment, some parents try so hard to raise their kids with good morals, to be respectful, polite and sometimes these kids just take a different path, it has nothing to do with the parents. Most of these kids still have good hearts too they get involved in a certain lifestyle and don’t know how to fix it and they get away with too much these days with no consequences.

Maybe Creative can write a book on how to be a perfect parent and raise the perfect teenager, when he/she has had kids that is:)

Angelina said :

creative_canberran said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Henry82 said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Do you actually have kids?

So you think that the parents dont know what their kids are doing? I’m sure repeated visits to the police station would be a fair indicator.

Having said that, my parent knew exactly what i was up to, whether or not i told them. Its not rocket science to work out if your kid is a trouble maker.

Just wondering if creative_canberran actually is a parent….of teenagers, implying the parents of these kids are deadbeats…he/she has either not had kids or has raised perfect children.

lol, permit me to translate Timberwolf’s comments thus far:

“Yo, yous mofos dun tell me wadda do wit ma young’ns if you dun have youse own. Ma young’ns do wat dey wanna, ain’t no homies gonna tell me dey can’t bag a car”.

That’s just a terrible impersonation, it’s like a mix between ghetto-street from Law & Order and the head-maid from Gone With the Wind. I used to live southside (2905 represent) and I don’t recall running into anyone that spoke like that!

Really though, It is possible for people to be good parents who happen to end up with shitty kids or kids who make bad decisions. It doesn’t mean they’re all bad parents. Some of them are, but some of them aren’t.

I’d say there are plenty of nice people who have bad kids, because despite being nice people they can still be bad parents. Good parents might have the odd issue to deal with, but rarely do they have genuinely bad kids.

Angelina said :

That’s just a terrible impersonation, it’s like a mix between ghetto-street from Law & Order and the head-maid from Gone With the Wind. I used to live southside (2905 represent) and I don’t recall running into anyone that spoke like that!

Really though, It is possible for people to be good parents who happen to end up with shitty kids or kids who make bad decisions. It doesn’t mean they’re all bad parents. Some of them are, but some of them aren’t.

Having all those phrases and syntax abnormalities in a single sentence is indeed a characterture however they are all real and you do hear them used regularly. Even the phonetically incorrect “young’ns”, “youse” and “wadda”. The irony is the characture actually downplays the typical language.

A more practical example I’ve seen on Facebook and heard around the shops is the following exchange:
1: Hey c… what’s up, what the f… you been up to
2: Not much, where u f….rs get to the other night
1: Was the f….g s…. mate, felt so f….g sick.

and so on… and it’s very very common to the point of whole Facebook walls consisting of these exchanges. Seriously, when did c… become a greeting?

I note that the above exchange was from a Facebook user whose mother and girlfriend’s mother are both “Friends” and see these exchanges, along with the pics of him cavorting around at 3 am drinking on the street. They don’t have a problem with it.

creative_canberran said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Henry82 said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Do you actually have kids?

So you think that the parents dont know what their kids are doing? I’m sure repeated visits to the police station would be a fair indicator.

Having said that, my parent knew exactly what i was up to, whether or not i told them. Its not rocket science to work out if your kid is a trouble maker.

Just wondering if creative_canberran actually is a parent….of teenagers, implying the parents of these kids are deadbeats…he/she has either not had kids or has raised perfect children.

lol, permit me to translate Timberwolf’s comments thus far:

“Yo, yous mofos dun tell me wadda do wit ma young’ns if you dun have youse own. Ma young’ns do wat dey wanna, ain’t no homies gonna tell me dey can’t bag a car”.

That’s just a terrible impersonation, it’s like a mix between ghetto-street from Law & Order and the head-maid from Gone With the Wind. I used to live southside (2905 represent) and I don’t recall running into anyone that spoke like that!

Really though, It is possible for people to be good parents who happen to end up with shitty kids or kids who make bad decisions. It doesn’t mean they’re all bad parents. Some of them are, but some of them aren’t.

Timberwolf65 said :

Henry82 said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Do you actually have kids?

So you think that the parents dont know what their kids are doing? I’m sure repeated visits to the police station would be a fair indicator.

Having said that, my parent knew exactly what i was up to, whether or not i told them. Its not rocket science to work out if your kid is a trouble maker.

Just wondering if creative_canberran actually is a parent….of teenagers, implying the parents of these kids are deadbeats…he/she has either not had kids or has raised perfect children.

lol, permit me to translate Timberwolf’s comments thus far:

“Yo, yous mofos dun tell me wadda do wit ma young’ns if you dun have youse own. Ma young’ns do wat dey wanna, ain’t no homies gonna tell me dey can’t bag a car”.

Why cannot society just the frack whack ’em?

Henry82 said :

Timberwolf65 said :

Do you actually have kids?

So you think that the parents dont know what their kids are doing? I’m sure repeated visits to the police station would be a fair indicator.

Having said that, my parent knew exactly what i was up to, whether or not i told them. Its not rocket science to work out if your kid is a trouble maker.

Just wondering if creative_canberran actually is a parent….of teenagers, implying the parents of these kids are deadbeats…he/she has either not had kids or has raised perfect children.

It’s obvious that the government hasn’t provided enough leisure facilities at Isabella Plains for youths. Their punishment will probably be to get a few laps of Winton in a V8 Supercar.

Timberwolf65 said :

Do you actually have kids?

So you think that the parents dont know what their kids are doing? I’m sure repeated visits to the police station would be a fair indicator.

Having said that, my parent knew exactly what i was up to, whether or not i told them. Its not rocket science to work out if your kid is a trouble maker.

creative_canberran said :

Take their dead beat parents and handcuff them to these scumbags.

Seriously, I bet a lot of people jump to the conclusion that the kids sneak out. I think it’s more likely the parents either know (“Hey ma, gonna boost sum wheels”) or choose complicit ignorance.

Do you actually have kids?

Take their dead beat parents and handcuff them to these scumbags.

Seriously, I bet a lot of people jump to the conclusion that the kids sneak out. I think it’s more likely the parents either know (“Hey ma, gonna boost sum wheels”) or choose complicit ignorance.

screaming banshee said :

I say we load them and others like them onto a boat and send them off to another land in the realm.

Convict reference, not a boat people reference.

Sounds good… But could we just sink the ship?

I say we load them and others like them onto a boat and send them off to another land in the realm.

Convict reference, not a boat people reference.

… before they become grown up scum.

Hopefully these young scum can be dealt with.