Darwin man summonsed for Northbourne sexual assault

schmeah said :

bigfeet said :

HenryBG said :

I dunno…how about rape? Or, if living in a wuss-infected society that loves to molly-coddle crims, how about we aim for imprisonment?

Or maybe he will get off the charges because no one can be bothered to turn up for Jury Service.

BAM! Glad to see someone join the dots on this one 🙂

If all they are willing to pay somebody to spend a day working in court is $96, then no justice at all would get done.
Oh, but the *lawyers* and judges get their $2,000-$5,000+ per day. While jurors have to put up with $96?

Sorry, as long as this is the case, all you’re going to get for jury service are the underemployed whose time has that little value.

bigfeet said :

HenryBG said :

I dunno…how about rape? Or, if living in a wuss-infected society that loves to molly-coddle crims, how about we aim for imprisonment?

Or maybe he will get off the charges because no one can be bothered to turn up for Jury Service.

BAM! Glad to see someone join the dots on this one 🙂

chewy14 said :

kakosi said :

Darkfalz said :

kakosi said :

If the crime is murder or robbery you never hear people saying “she/he deserved it”. Why is rape so acceptable?

You can’t make up being murdered.

And you assume everyone who says they are raped might be making it up – this is why I say it’s acceptable in our society for men to rape and women/men to be accused of deserving it. There’s always the assumption the victim is making it up because of course that’s what all women do?

Anyone who goes to the police after being raped is advised to not complain cause it’s very hard to win in our courts – because of attitudes like yours (and you are not unique) and the judiciary.

The great majority of rapes – and I believe there are a couple reported each day in the ACT – are not taken to court because the victims are told they won’t win cause they aren’t beaten up badly enough and they don’t have a witness. Makes you sick to the stomach to think of those rapists walking around on the streets free to do it over and over again.

Wow,
You really do have a warped view of reality.
The reason that a lot of alleged rapes don’t end in convictions has to do with pesky things like evidence and presumption of innocence. What would you prefer?

Bit of stabby-justice in Telopea Park, presumably. And then we can go back to witch-burnings and all.

kakosi said :

Darkfalz said :

kakosi said :

If the crime is murder or robbery you never hear people saying “she/he deserved it”. Why is rape so acceptable?

You can’t make up being murdered.

Anyone who goes to the police after being raped is advised to not complain cause it’s very hard to win in our courts – because of attitudes like yours (and you are not unique) and the judiciary.

Attitudes like mine? I was only making the point that people can be suspicious because there are instances of false accusation, and they very often make the news (the usual cycle of trial by media, charges being dropped, and then the media going very silent without so much an apology).

This leads many people to be wary of jumping to conclusions or automatically believing the accuser, although some take this a bit far and automatically assume they are lying.

What irritates me is that many get angrier at people who point out false accusations than the actual women who are making them, which apart from being heinous in of itself also makes things much harder for the real victims. The “women never lie” brigade are just as bad as the “women always lie” crowd.

kakosi said :

Darkfalz said :

kakosi said :

If the crime is murder or robbery you never hear people saying “she/he deserved it”. Why is rape so acceptable?

You can’t make up being murdered.

And you assume everyone who says they are raped might be making it up – this is why I say it’s acceptable in our society for men to rape and women/men to be accused of deserving it. There’s always the assumption the victim is making it up because of course that’s what all women do?

Anyone who goes to the police after being raped is advised to not complain cause it’s very hard to win in our courts – because of attitudes like yours (and you are not unique) and the judiciary.

The great majority of rapes – and I believe there are a couple reported each day in the ACT – are not taken to court because the victims are told they won’t win cause they aren’t beaten up badly enough and they don’t have a witness. Makes you sick to the stomach to think of those rapists walking around on the streets free to do it over and over again.

Wow,
You really do have a warped view of reality.
The reason that a lot of alleged rapes don’t end in convictions has to do with pesky things like evidence and presumption of innocence. What would you prefer?

Darkfalz said :

kakosi said :

If the crime is murder or robbery you never hear people saying “she/he deserved it”. Why is rape so acceptable?

You can’t make up being murdered.

And you assume everyone who says they are raped might be making it up – this is why I say it’s acceptable in our society for men to rape and women/men to be accused of deserving it. There’s always the assumption the victim is making it up because of course that’s what all women do?

Anyone who goes to the police after being raped is advised to not complain cause it’s very hard to win in our courts – because of attitudes like yours (and you are not unique) and the judiciary.

The great majority of rapes – and I believe there are a couple reported each day in the ACT – are not taken to court because the victims are told they won’t win cause they aren’t beaten up badly enough and they don’t have a witness. Makes you sick to the stomach to think of those rapists walking around on the streets free to do it over and over again.

bigfeet said :

buzz819 said :

Have a look at the legislation of any state and point out where the title “rape” is actually used as an offence.

Queensland Criminal Code – Section 349 – Rape

Victorian Crimes Act – Section 38 – Rape

Tasmanian Criminal Code – Section 185 – Rape

Very good, obviously ACT is the only one to use non-common terms in legislation.

kakosi said :

If the crime is murder or robbery you never hear people saying “she/he deserved it”. Why is rape so acceptable?
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Well, in fact, if I ever hear of one of our crim-friendly magistrates getting burgled, I will definitely be saying, “He deserved it”.

Neither I, nor anybody I know has ever said nor heard anyody else say of a rape victim that “she deserved it”, so I’m not sure WTF it is you’re talking about when you claim that “rape is acceptable”.

There was a bloke in Mawson charged with rape last year after he failed to pay a prostitute he had hired.
Now *that* one was complete bull$#!&. She should have had to go through the Small Claims Court like everybody else has to when chasing an unpaid bill.

kakosi said :

If the crime is murder or robbery you never hear people saying “she/he deserved it”. Why is rape so acceptable?

You can’t make up being murdered.

buzz819 said :

Have a look at the legislation of any state and point out where the title “rape” is actually used as an offence.

Queensland Criminal Code – Section 349 – Rape

Victorian Crimes Act – Section 38 – Rape

Tasmanian Criminal Code – Section 185 – Rape