12 May 2025

Federal election proving more complex than any previous to count, says AEC

| By Chris Johnson
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Australians voting in the 2025 election at London House

Australians voting in the 2025 election at London House. The AEC is waiting for additional postal vote returns and votes coming back from interstate and over 100 countries overseas. Photo: AEC.

The Australian Electoral Commission has described the 2025 federal election count as the largest and most complex election ever conducted.

With just a handful of Lower House seats remaining undecided, the AEC counted more ballot papers on the 3 May election night than ever before, as well as more incoming votes to this stage of the process.

The mandatory secondary count of all ballot papers, known as fresh scrutiny, has progressed well in all divisions, and preliminary scrutiny (electoral roll verification) has also been completed for the vast majority of postal votes received to date.

This is also now occurring for absent votes, or votes cast out of area.

Fresh scrutiny is a rolling activity that occurs for all ballot papers but is likely to be largely finalised by Tuesday (13 May).

Counts of interstate and other declaration votes received back to local counting centres will be undertaken throughout this week.

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Postal votes will continue to be received back at local counting centres, albeit in lower quantities this week, up until the legislated deadline for receipt, which for this election is Friday (16 May).

Acting Electoral Commissioner Jeff Pope said the nation already has clarity not just on who is forming government, but on most House of Representatives and Senate seats around the nation.

“The nature of the counting process has changed for this election with more two-candidate preferred (TCP) resets and three-candidate preferred (3CP) counts required than ever before in order to get clarity on the results of some seats,” he said.

“This increases the complexity of the AEC’s task, but we’re still ahead of planning and election count timetables from past elections.

“For all close seats, we prioritise further counting activity where we can, but it’s not a simple matter of putting on more people.

“We’re rapidly approaching that point in the counting process where we’re getting through absolutely everything we have to hand in local counting centres and waiting for additional postal vote returns and votes coming back from interstate and over 100 countries overseas.

“For particularly close seats, people will have to be patient. Transport and roll checks for declaration votes take time, and our processes are mandated by our legislation and guided by the principle of ‘right, not rushed’.

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Mr Pope said that while scrutineers are a “critical and valuable” part of the transparency of election counting processes, their presence slows down the count.

“We are seeing a large volume of scrutineers in some count centres, which is important, but it can understandably slow the activity down a little given their right to challenge formality decisions,” he said.

“In some cases, there are many more people scrutinising than counting, which is quite normal for this stage of the process in close seats.”

The Senate count has also progressed well, with more than 6.1 million Senate ballot papers having completed their initial returning officer counts.

Like for the House of Representatives, the entire Senate count is open to candidate-appointed scrutineers to observe.

By last weekend, almost 5 million Senate ballot papers had been received at the AEC’s state-based Central Senate Scrutiny sites, where the process of capturing and validating the hundreds of millions of Senate preferences occurs.

“While some Senate positions are known now, the full Senate count is always a reasonably lengthy process with final positions not known until the full distribution of preferences some weeks after election day,” Mr Pope said.

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Are you seriously digging WA Senate votes from 11 years ago? Lol.

The election wasn’t stolen. Log off and go for a walk mate.

What problem?

The one where a fraction of a percent of total voters may have voted multiple times?

At rates far too small to have any impact on the results?

Where they were actually identified by the AEC for potentially doing so?

Thanks for the link showing there is no problem with voter fraud in Australia with multiple levels of control in place.

Another day, another unfounded CR conspiracy. Can’t even find a recent article to point to.

One idiot means the whole system is falling apart lol. Sure thing CR, sure thing.

I agree with you CR, it is just as serious

“The AEC says the votes were counted at the polling booth before the ballots went missing, so the the incident has not affected the outcome of the poll.”

With an investigation underway.

Yes CR, you’d imagine it’s generally young law-breaking leftists who are trying to skew election results.

Hopefully the full force of the law is applied if so.

Still reading LNP talking points are we Penfold? Despite zero information to provide any characteristics of the people involved, you’ve already shown the super sleuth powers you have and solved it all.

How you post such drivel with a straight face I’d never understand.

Let alone the fact something at <0.1%, on a totally ad hoc, random basis is exceptionally unlikely to skew anything. Especially when the electorate quite overwhelmingly made a clear cut decision.

That sounds like an admission of guilt.

But the inability to understand has been previously noted. Frequently.

“you’d imagine it’s generally young law-breaking leftists who are trying to skew election results.”

Yes, you and CR would definitely imagine a lot of things that have no supporting evidence or basis in reality.

It has been previously noted. Frequently.

Capital Retro1:16 pm 14 May 25

Choke on this, chewy.
Note the reference to the age of Keating and Brereton too:

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/bring-out-your-dead-tales-from-the-branch-stacking-front-20200615-p552t8.html

“The young Keating and Brereton clearly knew the importance of numbers: after one wild pre-selection meeting, the pair are said to have disappeared into the night mounted on a motorcycle with the ballot box between them.”

Nice pickup CR, so not only young law-breaking leftists but old ones too.

Choke on what?

An anecdotal story about factional branch stacking decades ago?

That’s your big gotcha reveal?

Relevance to your claims of significant voter fraud at actual federal elections? None.

Did you even read the first line – i.e. that says ‘Years ago” CR.

Keep on with the conspiracy theories – you’ve only got three years to fill in until you can next whine about whatever imaginary fix you next come up with.

Then of course there is the religious branch stacking in Vic and SA for the Liberals, or Scott Mogadon’s branch stacking in Cook with bonus character assassination, and there is at least as much evidence for those as there is for rumoured actions of Brereton-Keating, if not more. The Qld Bjelkemander is fact.

Any more whatabouts you would like to whatabout, Capital Retro?

If so, move on to Scomoggy’s organising his numbers man Hawke to stall preselections in NSW so Trots Omicrons could captain’s pick his own selections. Liberal democracy in action.

What has any of this trivia to do with the fact the ALP gained 94 seats and the highest 2PP it has ever received since John Curtin in 1943? Sounds like you and others really cannot cope. Don’t worry, you will have years to get over it.

Capital Retro3:03 pm 14 May 25

Great blog name, “effari”. I remember my Latin studies and I think it means “loud fart”.

It’s only another conspiracy theory but has the left acquired another bot to mine AI, add a dose of bile and hurl it at anyone who dares to challenge their narrative?

According to the Latin dictionary CR it means “announce” or “express” so it sounds like you’re on the right track.

What the cooked conspiracy theorists are missing besides the fact that there aren’t enough votes here to change anything, and the assumption that the impact if any was only felt on their side, which is incredibly dumb even for them, is that all of this was picked up by the system.

There will be investigations, sanctions and changes if necessary. The system works. Australia has amongst the best run and fairest elections in the world.

Neither of you manage to find any vaguely adequate response, consistent with your earlier dodging of chewy14 and JS9.

The word means to utter, though you appear to consider it as in your general direction.

“Challenge the narrative”

ie. CR Making claims that when asked to substantiate with evidence, provides completely unrelated information then plays the victim when the irrelevance is pointed out to him.

Well effari it seems you haven’t made it as far as CR’s The Age link, where he directly addressed the issue.

As for chewy and the other well it doesn’t matter how often you try to engage all you get is invective. Best just to laugh along.

Capital Retro8:38 pm 14 May 25

Judging by the exceptionally big-pile on Penfold, I can sniff a victory on that exchange.

“it seems you haven’t made it as far as CR’s The Age link, where he directly addressed the issue.”

The issue is claims of significant electoral fraud at the Federal elections.

But unsurprisingly you think anecdotal evidence about a completely separate topic is “directly addressing the issue”.

Explains your inability to form a logical or evidence based position on pretty much any topic.

Yes CR, based on that latest treat chewy treat it appears you’re correct.

How are the cherries chewy ?

As expected, Pengold has nothing to offer except whataboutisms and personal abuse to avoid dealing with the topic.

Apparently Pengolds treat cherries treat treats are still rotten.

Feel free to comment on the law breaking leftists anytime you like chewy.

CR provided you some simple evidence in easy-to-read English.

Are the “leftists” in the room with you now Pengold?

Penfold, Capital Retro, my post clearly laid out your involvement in whataboutism on negligible evidence, with at least equal rumour or greater factual cases from the Liberals and their cohorts. Penfold offers zero evidence yet repeats “law-breaking leftists” because it suits him.

That is, the claims by both of you have neither relevance nor meaningful information to impart.

Your responses have been to ignore this or to attempt to deride those with whom you disagree, proving your incapacity to respond meaningfully.

That you ignore information and act in bad faith is noted. You have already repeated both of those just in this thread.

Well effari I’m just going with the flow. But you’re comment about bad faith is fascinating given your very first post resorted straight to personal attacks.

Your 2PP comment was interesting given in 2022 the ALP received their lowest primary vote in its history. Barely more than 1/3rd voted for them this year.

My first post was not on posters here, Penfold, although what I see will be called out. Any hint that I should show respect for Trots will be laughed at.

Of the primary/2PP, what of it? About the same (I won’t say fewer because while true that is not the point) voted for the Coalition. Our electoral system is preferential voting in single-member electorates. Nearly 55% said they preferred the ALP over the Liberals and Nationals. That is the story.

Well that’s nice effari. Since Menzies was elected the Libs have run the country for almost 70% of the time. Somewhat more popular and successful you’d have to agree.

And given preferences delivered about 40% of the ALP vote, enjoy that comfy feeling. A shock might be coming in 2028.

“A shock might be coming in 2028.”

That would be the same shock you and Capital were predicting for 2025 only 3 years late?

Genus stuff…lol

10 year old security holes Seano ? 2016 censuses ? Wow, good thing technology has progressed in those 10 years, wish we could say the same for your commentary. Here’s a few more terms to help set your advanced cyber security concerns. IRAP assessments, penetration tests, vulnerability analysis, the ISM, PSPF, cloud certification. You have heard of the cloud, yes ?

In fact here in Canberra we have one of the more advanced data centre operators around – Canberra Data Centres. You might have heard of them because they sponsor those lovely green ACTION buses that break down all the time.

You’ve posted this drivel on the wrong thread I’m afraid Penfold.

I know what all of those things are, IT security is complex, far from bullet proof and not cost free afraid. Your magical thinking seems to have broken your brain.

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