11 August 2025

Australia to recognise Palestinian state

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Hon Anthony Albanese MP, Prime Minister of Australia

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says Australia will recognise Palestinian statehood. Photo: Thomas Lucraft.

Australia will formally recognise the State of Palestine at the next session of the United Nations General Assembly in September.

Anthony Albanese announced the decision on Monday (11 August), saying the war in Gaza had gone too far and Australia will contribute to international momentum towards a two-state solution, a ceasefire in Gaza and release of the hostages.

“Australia will recognise the State of Palestine. Australia will recognise the right of the Palestinian people to a state of their own, predicated on the commitments Australia has received from the Palestinian Authority,” the Prime Minister said.

“A two-state solution is humanity’s best hope to break the cycle of violence in the Middle East and to bring an end to the conflict, suffering and starvation in Gaza.”

The recognition will be conditional on Hamas playing no future role in governing Palestine, and Australia will work with the international community to make Palestinian statehood a reality.

Mr Albanese said Australia has supported Israel’s existence since 1947 and in that year recommended the creation of two states side by side.

“Then, as now, the international community understood a two-state solution was the basis of peace and security for the peoples of the region,” he said.

“Australia was the first country to raise its hand at the United Nations in support of Resolution 181, to create the State of Israel and a Palestinian state.

“More than 77 years later, the world can no longer wait for the implementation of that resolution to be negotiated between the parties.

“Australia’s decision helps build the historic global momentum to break the cycle of violence in the Middle East.”

Mr Albanese said the risk of trying is nothing compared to the danger of letting this moment “pass us by”.

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The toll of the status quo, he said, is growing by the day and it could be measured in innocent lives.

The Prime Minister said his Israeli counterpart, Benjamin Netanyahu, was extinguishing the prospect of a two-state solution by rapidly expanding illegal settlements, threatening annexation in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and explicitly opposing any Palestinian state.

“Australia is further compelled by the Netanyahu government’s disregard of the international community’s calls, and its failure to comply with its legal and ethical obligations in Gaza,” he said.

“Israel is required to protect civilians and ensure the provision of food and medical supplies.

“Permanent forced displacement of civilians is illegal. Palestinian children deserve a future that looks nothing like their reality today.”

Foreign Minister Penny Wong said the UN gathering was the right time to offer Australia’s recognition.

“Australians, people around the world, have been haunted by the images,” she said.

“We have always said that Palestinian civilians cannot be made to pay the price of defeating Hamas. But a whole population has been shattered.

“We made clear we would recognise Palestine when it would best contribute momentum to peace. September is that time.”

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While the Greens support the move, the Coalition has expressed concern at the government’s decision.

Shadow Defence Minister Angus Taylor said the announcement was vague and premature.

He wants more information about the conditions the Prime Minister has outlined.

“There is no clarity from the government on these preconditions and, frankly, that’s because they haven’t been met,” Mr Taylor said.

“We’re not there yet, and the risk is this is then premature, that it doesn’t bring the tragedy that we’ve seen to an end, that it’s ongoing, and that we don’t see the lasting peace that we all want.”

The United Kingdom, France and Canada have all stated their intentions to recognise Palestine at the UN General Assembly, and New Zealand has said it is carefully weighing the decision.

But the United States is not so inclined, and as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, it has the power to veto any resolution to recognise Palestine.

It has previously used that veto right against Palestinian statehood, even though 147 of the 193 UN member states currently recognise Palestine’s sovereignty.

Senator Wong confirmed she had discussed the matter with US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

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Simon Kovacs3:36 pm 15 Aug 25

While behind the times, Albo is reading the writing on the walls and has decided to make his move.
The apartheid system in Israel is about to fall and he is scrambling to get ahead.
But alas, he was on the wrong side of history, its pages will read.
The list of genocide supporters is long.

Genocide supporters.

This is great and a good start but so far it’s just words. A lot more needs be done, particularly in a practical sense. Also, reports like this remind me why the media is confusing. When I was introduced to this issue I was taught “Palestine is a state of Israel but they want to become and independent country.” But the news keeps using the phrase ‘state’ which totally contradicts what I was taught. “Are we not using phrasing?” – Agent Stirling Archer, Archer.

Hayward Maberley10:38 pm 12 Aug 25

What need to be recognised is the Hamas was spawned by Israel, beginning in the late 1970s, Israel was giving direct & indirect financial aid to Hamas as well as political backing.

Israel ‘aided Hamas directly – the Israelis wanted to use it as a counterbalance to the PLO” said Tony Cordesman,ME analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

A former senior CIA official also suported such in that Israel’s support for Hamas ‘was a direct attempt to divide and dilute support for a strong, secular PLO by using a competing religious alternative.”

“In addition to hoping to turn the Palestinian masses away from Arafat and the PLO, the Likud leadership believed they could achieve a workable alliance with Islamic, anti-Arafat forces that would also extend Israel’s control over the occupied territories.”

In a conscious effort to undermine the PLO and the leadership of Yasser Arafat, by 1978 the government of Menachem Begin approved the application of Sheik Yassin to start a “humanitarian” organization known as the Islamic Association, or Mujama.

An Islamist group based on the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood eventually growing into Hamas amply aided and assisted with both Israeli funds and political support.

PM Begin, later Yitzhak Shamir, with the creation Village Leagues composed of local councils of handpicked Palestinians who would collaborate with Israel and were on the Israeli payroll. Sheik Yassin and his followers soon became a force within the Village Leagues aimed at undercutting the PLO.

This is what Middle East scholar Donald Neff wrote in the September 1999 issue of The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs.

“Israeli authorities saw the Brotherhood as a useful counterbalance to the largely secular PLO. Israel began secretly to contribute to the Brotherhood’s cause through favors and donations to mosques and schools.”

HiddenDragon7:54 pm 12 Aug 25

“The last temptation is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason”

This decision reeks of posturing moral vanity and calculating domestic political advantage on the part of a hollow government which looks increasingly frightened of its own shadow.

I understand what you’re saying but….how does this come to Australia’s advantage?

The last election in Gaza was in 2006. Hamas won, then removed the opposition. Literally and permanently.

So far that makes it a 19 year term. What a relief Albo supports this democracy over Israel’s democracy (elected on four year terms).

Albo is not supporting Hamas, fixed elections or the removal off opposition parties, he’s supporting the opposite of all that a Palestinian state WITHOUT Hamas.

Your constant attempts to misrepresent the argument only prove how weak your arguments are.

The Palestinian Centre for Policy and Social Research did some polling back in May and reported that Palestinian support for Hamas was 57% and for the Palestinian Authority was 22%. Personal support for Mahmoud Abbas was 15%.

Albo once again has backed the wrong horse in terms of what Palestinians want. And seano you’re going to need some big boots and a large army to ensure that Hamas have no role in a Palestinian state.

Feel free to misrepresent those numbers. Being on the wrong side of every argument has become a forte.

You’ve missed something, Albo has stated conditions for Palestine’s independence and that includes returning the remaining Israeli hostages and getting rid of Hamas. Sadly though, the majority of negative attention is on Israel and not Hamas. So far I have read, only Penny Wong and Albo have criticized Hamas.

They might have criticised them Karl, but they’ve also legitimised them.

Btw the criticism has been pretty meek and mild. The policy flip proves they support Hamas, as if we needed more proof.

“Albo once again has backed the wrong horse in terms of what Palestinians want. And seano you’re going to need some big boots and a large army to ensure that Hamas have no role in a Palestinian state.”

The whole point is to change the minds of the Palestinian people, genius. You might also note if you haven’t living in a right wing culture wars bubble that a lot has happened since May AND that there are already troops on the ground.

“Feel free to misrepresent those numbers. Being on the wrong side of every argument has become a forte.” What argument? You’re dribbling the usual nonsense.

Albo’s going to change the minds of the Palestinian people. Wow, he must be amazing. A few questions then:

* Is Albo going to put his boots on the ground in Gaza to begin this mind-changing exercise ?
* How does Albo plan to do this mind-changing ?
Will he appeal to their …. err …. humanity, like he did with his voice disaster ?
* Will he try the old “if you’re not with us you’re a racist” line as with the voice ?
* Will Penny head along too ?
* When does Albo plan to start this crusade ?
* Will he put himself up as the new leader of the Palestinian Authority, given how unpopular Abbas is ?

Please seano, give us the answers. This should be good 🤣

“Albo’s going to change the minds of the Palestinian people. ” get your understanding of diplomacy stops at Scott Morrison slagging off China on Skynews costing Australians jobs and businesses but it’s called diplomacy. If it didn’t why has Netanyahu argued against it?

Sadly, you’re not very smart Penfold, according I’ve ignored the rest of your nonsensical d

Apologies seano, that was quite a few questions. Didn’t mean to overwhelm you. 😁

The weren’t questions, they were the usual puerile drivel you post wrongly assuming that adults take you seriously.

Labor has supported a Palestinian state but only without Hamas, it’s a sensible stance and not one which you’ve raised a reasonable point to challenge.

Note misrepresenting the arguments, being smug and littering your drivel with emojis are not reasonable arguments but they do say a lot about you.

Well they were questions. An astute observer could tell by the question mark at the end of each one ❓️❔️🤣

Given that words in English have multiple meanings and that “question” also means “a matter requiring resolution or discussion” even your trolling is meaningless.

But thank you for confirming my point that you have nothing worthwhile to contribute whatsoever….what a sad existence it must be.

“Unlike you, Penfold 🤥,I have on several occasions stated that the actions of both Hamas and IDF are inexcusable – borh sides are at fault.”

100% this. The hostages have to be handed over and the leaders of Hamas and anyone who has committed crimes brought to justice. Albo is saying there is a way forward for Palestine but not with Hamas. This is a good stance to take if we genuinely seek to end the humanitarian crisis and find a way for Israel and Palestine to co-exist.

Bloody oath!

I should add, the IDF were right to respond to the October 7 attacks but they weren’t tactful about it and very wreckless. I’ve read a few news reports about how IDF have accidentally killed some of the hostages they were meant to rescue.

The Palestinians shouldn’t have celebrated the October attacks and kidnappings with Hamas. They’re now paying for that support. Freeing the hostages will bring a end to this and then maybe recognise a Palestinian state.

Well….yeah. I don’t recall seeing Palestinians celebrating the attack but you’re right. They’ve brought this amongst themselves. There’s plenty of protest against Israel and IDF but why isn’t there any protest against Hamas?

Capital Retro2:17 pm 12 Aug 25

This decision by student activist mindset Albanese should have been put to referendum.

It’s is definitely not an all-Australian decision.

Capital demonstrates he doesn’t understand what a referendum is…

Yep, I’m sure I saw a reference in the Australian constitution to the Palestinian state…..

Surely you’ve been around long enough CR to know what a referendum is, and what it’s purpose is….

Surely….

@Capital Retro
What you really mean, CR, is “I don’t like this decision, therefore we need a referendum”. Nevertheless, how are you proposing that The Constituion by amended by this referendum for which you are calling?

Governments of all flavours have made in the past, and will continue to make in the future, decisions which are not “all-Australian”. It’s the nature of a democratically elected government/parliament.

CR – well done, throw out a little bait and sure enough, hook 🪝 line and sinker.

This was a decision for the very loud minority of people who clearly lack the ability to distinguish between right and wrong. It appears that our local leftist friends are part of that very ignorant and ideological cohort.

“CR – well done, throw out a little bait and sure enough, hook 🪝 line and sinker.”

Ok what’s the bait that we’ve fallen for Penfold? Please explain. We both know you won’t because whilst Capital is clearly confused again you’re just seeking to troll. You’ll make your usual smug comments in lieu of a thoughtful response before running away again.

As to the the rest of your drivel, I get that you don’t like represented democracy when it doesn’t go your way which is the loathsome position of many on the far right but calling others ignorant whilst misrepresenting their positions only demonstrates how little value your comments here contain.

Capital Retro4:09 pm 12 Aug 25

I was trying to flush Sean Zero out. That’s out, not down.

@Penfold
Nah, Penfold🤥, I am definitely not part of your “very ignorant and ideological cohort”.

Do you even know what a referendum is in Australia? 🤦‍♂️

After you google it – please explain it to Capital ‘Catweazel’ Retro.

JS, sorry buddy, you’re the very definition of it. Here’s your earlier comment:

“I am very familiar with the deplorable action of Hamas on 7 October 2023 ….
both sides are at fault.”

Perhaps you could explain how Israel was “at fault” for October 7. The worst act of terrorism since 11 September and worst against the peace-seeking Jewish people since 1945.

As for “Catweazel” well now you’re stooping to a chewy level of maturity.

Gregg Heldon5:26 pm 12 Aug 25

Penfold, what is ignorant, is using lazy generalisations. I vote right and I believe in recognising Palestine. But without Hamas involvement. That is the RIGHT thing to do. It may also help end decades of conflict.
It is the human thing to do.

@Penfold
Nah, Penfold🤥, I could never be a member of any cohort to which you belong – especially a “very ignorant and ideological cohort”.

And OK, I should have used a full stop rather than an ellipsis. Although I would have thought the use of the present tense verb (“are”) might have given you a clue that I am referring to what’s happening now. So, for the record, I believe that both sides are at fault in the indiscriminate slaying of innocent civilians.

By the way, have you managed to google the term “referendum”?

Capital Zero the only thing more embarrassing than your puerile jokes and not understanding how our constitution works is the Penfoldian excuses. Weak.

Capital Retro1:42 pm 13 Aug 25

Our constitution doesn’t work for everyone, Shaughno.

Despite only liking representative democracy when the team you blindly and mindlessly cheerlead are in power the constitution literally does work for everyone Capital Retch because we literally all have to abide by it.

How do you not understand this stuff?

Tempus Viator12:45 pm 12 Aug 25

I feel it is an honorable thing, however, past attempts have failed.
Even if you look past the issue of 1947 that led to the 1948 war there was probably three recent activities to achieve a two-state solution that were not successful.
The Arab Peace Initiative of 2002, then the Annapolis Conference of 2007/08 and most recently the 2013/14 Peace Talks.
None of these event overcame the 3 main blockers (1. Ideology of both Israel and Palestine to acknowledge each other, 2. Geography and demographics dispute and finally 3. state of immediate conflicts (eg the present war or the prior Intifada etc..).
I’ll be curious to see what the actual ‘implementation mechanics’ at the September UN will be proposed to make it a different approach from the previous failures.

So how much is this going to cost the Australian taxpayer? Sister city status with Ramallah?

Well both CBDs are empty so there’s a bit in common.

So how much does recognising any other country cost. Don’t worry, we’re not proposing sister city status with Ramallah.

Why and how should it cost us anything? Also, bringing up the issue of cost into something like this feels rather shallow considering the loss of life and hardship amongst people. People who in by now way would I want to swap places with.

This horrible situation started when Hamas, who control Gaza, launched a terrorist attack on Israel. I’m not entirely supportive of Israel’s strategy, however, I can understand their intent to eliminate Hamas.

Albo’s intension to recognise Palestinian, rewards Hamas.

Australian governments have never, until now, given in to terrorist organisations.

I am not opposed to recognising a Palestinian state, however, it should only be considered without the influence of Hamas.

Remove Hamas, and then work towards a peaceful establishment of a Palestinian state.

“The recognition will be conditional on Hamas playing no future role in governing Palestine”….

Did you read the article, Albo is literally doing what you’ve asked for, recognising a Palestinian state but only without Hamas.

Read the conclusion:
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/what-australia-is-doing/terrorist-organisations/listed-terrorist-organisations/hamas

Good luck with peace initiatives between Palestine and Israel with Hamas in the mix

@Futureproof
Perhaps read that link yourself, Fp … then you might understand why Australia’s recognition of a Palestine state is “conditional on Hamas playing no future role in governing Palestine”.

You may also note the reference, in the article above, to the Palestinian Authority – which is the democratically elected governing body of the Palestinian West Bank enclaves and the de jure (google it) body for the Gaza Strip.

They’re literally saying they only support a Palestinian state without Hamas involvement….your refusal to accept that fact because it doesn’t suit your narrative doesn’t make it go away.

Terrorists unite! Hamas has demonstrated that if you go and launch attacks, hide behind the civilian community for a few years that eventually your cause will be rewarded. Expect more terror events to occur worldwide now that Australia and group of other countries have legitimised terror

“The recognition will be conditional on Hamas playing no future role in governing Palestine”…another one who didn’t read the article.

Finally……the first step for a recognised Palestinian sovereign state. If this was done decades ago, the Middle East would not have been in today’s predicament, there would not have been a Hamas if it were the case.
The decades of suffering and crimes, presently a genocide unfolding against the Palestinian people….I also hope that justice takes place sooner rather than later for anyone who had committed war crimes.

You seem to be living in a fantasy. Hamas, Hezbollah and many other groups and people in the region are completely opposed to the existence of Israel. The leaders of Syria, Egypt, Jordan and Iraq only gave up on its destruction because the Israelis proved on the battlefield multiple times that it was too expensive to fight them. The creation of a separate Palestinian state would have just given the people who think like Hamas a more solid base to work from.

A reward to Hamas for crimes against humanity. Wonder how this one sits with the LGBT community who are most certainly not welcome over there. Or all females who are treated as second class citizens.

None of that is true.

@Penfold
As usual, Penfold , you delight in distorting the truth.

Try reading the article again – particularly the statement “The recognition will be conditional on Hamas playing no future role in governing Palestine”, and then perhaps you can explain how it, i.e. recognition of a Palestinian state, is a “reward to Hamas for crimes against humanity”.

It’s a peaceful and democratic society. They wouldn’t take anyone hostage.

Seano, you have absolutely no idea of of Middle Eastern culture. I’ll tell you what, as an act of good faith, how about hosting Sydney’s rainbow parade in Gaza next year. Surely they will be welcomed with open arms

What are you talking about as “an act of good faith” Futureproof? How this nonsense hypothetical at all reasonable, relevant or rational? If you want to act in good faith instead of making a fool of yourself as a culture wars clown, address the actual issue which is that Palestine has been recognised as a state NOT Hamas.

@Henry – typical far right wing nonsense where nuance does not exist, no one has endorsed Hamas or their actions, quite the opposite. But the Palestinian people have a right to exist.

JS if you’re unfamiliar with October 7, perhaps look it up.

Good suggestion Futureproof.

Seano, nobody’s saying they don’t have a right to exist. Not even the Israelis. The Israelis are just putting the complete destruction of Hamas above everything else. Hamas will not willingly relinquish power in Gaza. They killed Fatah members over it and haven’t held an election in 2 decades. Hamas has intentionally launched attacks from civilian areas, knowing counter strikes create and propaganda wins. What we’re seeing in Gaza now is what would have happened if Germany had obeyed Hitler’s orders to fight to the very bitter end. There is no future for the people of Gaza unless Hamas is destroyed. If Israel heeds the calls to stop pursuing that aim, it will just happen again at some point in time.

Hey Seano, do some research. Palestine may be recognised by Australia, but Hamas will never, ever recognise Israel, and has continually called for its eradication.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-hamas

Yeah Futureproof, mentioning October 7 is “far right wing nonsense” in seanoland.

The Loch Ness Monster says hello too.

Octorber 7 blah blah blah you know this dates back further than that? You need to dig deep and ask yourself why the death of children and the genocide of a people is justified and the solution to a problem? I’m more concerned with a nation that kills children and journalists, has secret nukes, the power to change laws in other countries to prohibit criticism, a leader under investigation for corruption and a government of self confessed supremacists that want an ethno-state and look down on anyone who isn’t them.

@Garfield, tediously irrelevant. Supporting Palestine does not require supporting Hamas.

@Futureproof….you’re not exactly a genius, the whole point the recognition of Palestine but only WITHOUT Hamas.

@Penfold once again you fall into disingenuous nonsense to cover your embarrassment as you’ve been caught out yet again…maybe next time read the article before choosing to beclown yourself.

“The recognition will be conditional on Hamas playing no future role in governing Palestine”

Oh yes our intrepid international strategic and diplomatic expert strikes again !

Given Hamas control Gaza, presumably this means seano will single-handedly walk in and remove Hamas.

How brilliant 👏

“recognition of Palestine but only WITHOUT Hamas” Laughable

Garfield, you’re aware that the Israeli regime says that Palestine does not have a right to exist, yes? That kind of renders the rest of your post meaningless doesn’t it.

The conditional recognition is a new approach…

Do you believe recognition would/should be switched off if the West’s conditions are not met? Such as if Palestine doesn’t hold elections, or if Hamas does indeed play a role in Palestine’s future government?

Penfold, “Given Hamas control Gaza, presumably this means seano will single-handedly walk in and remove Hamas.”

Nasty and irrelevant as ever. The whole point is to make the case for a Palestine without Hamas. Read the article next time.

@Futureproof “Laughable”…what’s laughable about seeking to end the humanitarian crisis and to find a path to lasting peace? You expecting this to happen via magic like the rest of your magical thinking?

@mattwatts “Do you believe recognition would/should be switched off if the West’s conditions are not met?”

IDK but as you quite rightly point out Hamas are elected body. So the Palestinians can

@Penfold
I am very familiar with the deplorable action of Hamas on 7 October 2023, Penfold 🤥.

Unlike you, I have on several occasions stated that the actions of Hamas and IDF are inexcusable – both sides are at fault.

Perhaps you and your partner in this, Future Proof, need to take off your blinkers and objectively read the article – especially the reference to “Hamas playing no future role in governing Palestine”.

Do you need me to explain the concept of “… be conditional on …”? If necessary, google it, and then explain it to Future Proof, please.

Nope JS, only one side started this. And if you’re that silly to think Hamas will be out of the picture then you’re as blinkered as Albo who told us but two weeks ago Australia would not be recognising Palestine / Gaza.

Hey, any idea what the capital of Palestine might be ? Same as Israel ? That would work well. Just brilliant.

@Penfold
Yet again, Penfold, you show your incapacity for comprehending the written word. I wrote “both sides are at fault” … Perhaps, you are parroting the Israel propoganda machine, and suggesting the killing of innocent civilians has only been undertaken by Hamas? (🤥)
Hint: The children starving in Gaza, because of aid blockades, are not Israelis.

Yes – a lot can happen, and has happened, in a fortnight … thankfully, we have a government that is prepared to modify its position, on the basis of new information – which you are clearly unable to do.

As for the capital? Well, Penfold, for someone who likes to refer to history, you are sadly lacking when it comes to divided cities. Had you ever heard of East Berlin and West Berlin – before the wall came down?

Berlin was the capital of Germany for several decades before the WW2 division JS so history isn’t going to help you much there.

As for the tragedy in Gaza, well perhaps you should read a little more broadly. It appears that Hamas both pilfer and block aid.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862584

Hey did you read about the NYT article about the “emancipated baby” that they claimed was Israel’s fault ? Their apology was pretty cringeworthy.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/29/media/new-york-times-stunningly-rolls-back-claims-about-viral-photo-of-starving-gaza-boy/

As for Albo, well he hasn’t “modified his position”. He’s rewarded terrorism and further alienated our ANZUS partner. The most destructive government in terms of national security ever. But JS approves.

Israel will never recognise Palestine and is not just “calling for” its eradication ….it is actually carrying it out. That is genocide.

@Penfold
It’s a historical fact, Penfold🤥, that after WWII, both Germany and Berlin were divided by the allies. The former united Germany was divided into two separate countries – West Germany (the FRD) and East Germany (the DDR), and Berlin into two halves, West Berlin and East Berlin. This continued until unification in 1990, culminating in 1999, in the resumption of Berlin as the capital of (a single) Germany. It’s not hard to google these historical facts, Penfold🤥, to find one city shared by two countries – so it’s possible.

And what are you using those articles to prove, that civilians (both Palestinian and international) have not been indiscriminately killed as a result of IDF action? I could cite plethora of reports, from independent sources, of civilians being killed and children starving or malnourished but I won’t waste my time as you wouldn’t read them anyway. Your Israeli sycophancy is quite pathetic really. There are no winners, on either side, when it comes to the slaughter of civilians.

“As for Albo, well he hasn’t “modified his position”.” really, Penfold🤥? Did you not say “Albo who told us but two weeks ago Australia would not be recognising Palestine / Gaza”? Now as per the article, Albo is saying “Australia will recognise the State of Palestine.” If that doesn’t constitute changing one’s mind, I don’t know what does 🤦‍♂️

“The most destructive government in terms of national security ever.” You might want to dial backon the emotive hyperbole, Penfold🤥 … it just makes you look foolish and desperate.

Nice try but no cigar on Berlin JS. The German people wanted unity, Israel and Palestine do not.

Thanks for the history lesson though, I enjoyed visiting Checkpoint Charlie a few times.

As for Albo, perhaps you’d care to nominate a more destructive government. Kowtowing to the Pacific bully, to terrorists and rejecting our ANZUS ally. Doesn’t get much scarier than that.

@Penfold
“The German people wanted unity …”
So what? Did the “German people” want Berlin to be split? Do try to keep up, Penfold🤥 – it resulted in one city shared by two countries.

“Kowtowing to the Pacific bully, to terrorists and rejecting our ANZUS ally.”
Nice try but no cigar, Penfold🤥. Your opinionated hyperbole doesn’t make it fact.

Capital Retro1:40 pm 13 Aug 25

If Israel really wanted to commit genocide on Palestine they would have done it the day after October 7.

You have been watching too much Al Jazeera propaganda Astro. All those “starving” children with their new, shiny pots posing for Hamas photographers.

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