ACT Petrol price Rip-off

NRMA comparisions were a bit misleading in that they didn’t factor in that all but one of the vehicles needed premium fuel to get their efficiancy savings compared to diesel. Cutting fuel excise will only reduce money govn. has to spend on schools, hospitals etc. The bowser price will stay the same (just more profit for oil companies). Qld doesn’t include the GST component in fuel sales (they forgo that part of the GST return to the states from the Feds). And the difference in the cost of diesel over petrol can be explained by market research carried out by the fuel companies (vehicle type sales in particular areas/average incomes) therefore if there is a spike in diesel vehicle sales in a higher income area the difference in price increases. In areas of low diesel vehicle ownership the difference is much lower, transportation costs however remain the same. ps talking cars here.

I agree that we should be encouraging people to use alternative forms of transport, but what about those of us who have no other choice but to drive? It’s too expensive to live in an area where public transport or walking is an option, so I have to drive. Even if petrol goes up above $2 a litre, it will still be cheaper for me to live out of town.

It does piss me off though, that people are happy to pay $20 to go to a movie, and then cry poor when they have to pay an extra $3 for petrol after the price goes up 20c a litre.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

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Besides, high petrol prices mean people are spending less on luxury type goods and services, which I think is good for the wider economy.

On what basis have you come to this belief?

Yup, and if the carbon trading scheme were to include vehicle fuel, then peoples requirement of food, compared to their (often not required) preference for motor transport, means that diesel likely will come down in price relative to ULP.

Growling Ferret said :

Why would you want a Hybrid when turbo diesel technology means you can use less fuel that way instead?

You want a fuel efficient vehicle – Hyundai i30 TD, VW Golf TDi both get under 5l per 100kmh on the highway.

The work Prius barely gets 9l 100/kmh round town – where my 2007 Falcon XR6 with 6 speed auto averages 10.0 around town and less on the highway…

check out the new open road report from NRMA – diesel lost to petrol efficiencies in the study that they did. read it last night.

Why would you want a Hybrid when turbo diesel technology means you can use less fuel that way instead?

You want a fuel efficient vehicle – Hyundai i30 TD, VW Golf TDi both get under 5l per 100kmh on the highway.

The work Prius barely gets 9l 100/kmh round town – where my 2007 Falcon XR6 with 6 speed auto averages 10.0 around town and less on the highway…

I think that anything the Gov’t (at whatever level) can do to encourage more fuel efficient cars and/or new technology is great, and should be continued. That said, while I am not against the cutting of fuel excise, I really don’t think that expensive fuel is so bad, because it should reduce usage, which is good for everyone.

I think that any carbon trading scheme should fully include vehicle fuel, because we will soon find out what people are more willing to spend money, carbon emissions to drive their cars, or carbon emissions to power their plasma screen.

Petrol prices aren’t that bad compared to some other places in the world. Compared to the costs of depreciation for new vehicles, as well as maintenance, tyres, rego and insurance, I don’t think petrol is that big a deal.

It’s all about the psychology. Prices go up in fits and spurts (housing does this too, you know), and people moan about ‘how much it has risen in x time period’, without giving a thought to the fact that they have already enjoyed times when it is cheap.

Besides, high petrol prices mean people are spending less on luxury type goods and services, which I think is good for the wider economy.

if we can get prices reduced by the govt, perhaps by abolishing the fuel excise, or the local government rebating us somehow to cover the cost, we would go down by at least 10c a litre. works in qld. fuel is still 10c cheaper than in sydney (which is still cheaper than us).

I personally think that the Government (local and or federal) should give us a rebate if we buy a hybrid engine car – perhaps cut the cost of the cars so that more can afford it, or work out a way to upgrade the existing cars to be hybrid enabled.

It seems to me they can charge what the hell they like! & who shall bid them nay!

Have you considered opening a petrol station and then selling the fuel for no profit? For that matter how come the Salvos haven’t opened a petrol station, as a non-profit religious based org, they could get a great tax deal, and could sell petrol at a much cheaper price as a way of helping needy families….

Sometimes it’s worth is to support a good business?

abc said :

Ooooooh……11 cents a litre cheaper at Exeter… I’ll drive up the highway from now on and buy my petrol… thanks for the tip.

Don’t laugh, but there are people in the Highlands who will drive out to Sutton Forest (The servo you mention is in Sutton Forest, not exeter) because it is always a few cents cheaper, not considering the petrol wasted by driving that way.

bigfeet said :

Wow, 11 cents a litre…so with my 50 litre tank that I fill once every fortnight, I will make a saving of a whole $143 for the year.

FFS I spend more than that on a single night out, or two weeks worth of coffees.

People are hysterical over nothing when it comes to petrol prices.

Exactly!

They can charge anything they like. Its suppose to be a free market economy so they can charge $10 litre if they want.

Wow, 11 cents a litre…so with my 50 litre tank that I fill once every fortnight, I will make a saving of a whole $143 for the year.

FFS I spend more than that on a single night out, or two weeks worth of coffees.

People are hysterical over nothing when it comes to petrol prices.

Ooooooh……11 cents a litre cheaper at Exeter… I’ll drive up the highway from now on and buy my petrol… thanks for the tip.