Albo makes his General Assembly debut, and finally snags a face-to-face with Trump (he even has a selfie to prove it)

Reading non-verbal cues has a greater basis than phrenology, but not much. The above is pretty typical of the pseudo-science in which people project their own bias regarding the subjects in question. Ask a “body language expert” on the Socialist Worker and they will reverse the above descriptions, and no-one can discern which is right because neither has any sensible basis.

Trump calling climate change a “con job” is in the same class as Penfold, proven wrong time and again, known to be wrong practically every time he expresses a view.

Sorry to burst your bubble Axon but for many people – clearly outside your peer groups – for which climate change is a complete hoax, con job, bunkum, insert whatever description you like.

Sure, temperatures might be slightly increasing and mankind contributes. But the overreaction and hysteria are ridiculous. You’ve got a government in Australia who effectively want to de-industrialise our economy for the sake of 1% of global emissions. They’re off to a good start too, with our standard of living falling for the past three years.

Don’t look now but the USA, China, India, Russia and now Europe are waking up to it all. You won’t hear the term net-zero from them, the latter winding back quickly. So too Canada. The only remaining fools are us here in Australia.

So let’s throw this back on you protagonists – can you offer a single proven example of climate change directly impacting and hurting Australia ? Let me go first – no – nichts, null, nein, non, nyet, nahin, nope, nei, nie. Feel free to prove otherwise.

In the great hoax it’s always gonna. It’s gonna happen. 36 years, still waiting ….

If you wish to counter knowledge Penfold, start writing to climate science journals or to 99% of climate scientists, who have accumulated evidence since the possibility was first raised in the 19th century. Alert them to your arguments. For conviction, tell them that the inveterate liar Trump agrees with you.

Now you are teaming with Russia? It fits.

Did you notice also that China made a surprise announcement that it will not merely constrain emissions growth but reduce emissions by 2035? This is consistent with their massive investment in renewable energy, far outstripping investments in fossil energy sources which themselves will be reduced.

America and people such as yourself are laying out the red carpet for China to attain world leadership while America becomes isolated and in gradual decline. The process will be slow, as history is, but Trump is helping it along, with you as cheerleader. What a patriot you are! (not).

I do not play your childish game of pointing to any singular event because your question arises directly from your incomprehension of climate versus weather,. The warming pattern is incontrovertible and the impacts of rising heat are well known in their patterns. For example it is well known that rising heat causes quite dramatic increases in deaths without naming an individual who died as a consequence. It is the pattern, the rate of events, that betrays it. It is happening now.

Axon – my beef isn’t with the “99%” (it used to be 97% but what’s a few %).

It’s with those who think it means we must upheave our industries, lifestyles and standards of living for no significant reason.

But your inability to provide a single example of a climate change impact is noted. As i said, nichts, null, nein.

Poor old Penfold. Still hasn’t got over Dutton’s debacle & is harking for the good old days under Abbott & Scomo.

I would suggest that the worst bushfires in recorded history have occured, remember when scomo sat in paradise drinking cocktails? I would also suppose that that doesn’t count in penfolds book because he personally wasn’t affected by it. Lifestyles and standards of living? Did you put all your eggs in one basket? Silly investment strategy.

A bushfire is an example of climate change ? Goodness me TG, perhaps next you’ll claim those devastating 1851 bushfires were climate related.

Penfold, your beef is indeed with the 99%, and if their cogent research implies that action is needed then only fools or old commercial interests will object, just as happened with air pollution, lead in petrol, and smoking, as a few examples.

Nowhere is is suggested there will not need be any upheaval of our standard of living. On the contrary, action will halt the current climatic decline, and with cheaper energy improve everyone’s standard of living.

Regarding the impacts of climate change, don’t bother being obtuse. They are here and proven as I cited, in rising temperatures and their natural consequences.

The warming pattern is incontrovertible and the impacts of rising heat are well known in their patterns. For example it is well known that rising heat causes quite dramatic increases in deaths without naming an individual who died as a consequence. It is the pattern, the rate of events, that betrays it. It is happening now.

There are 9 time more fatalities from the cold Axon, a simple medical fact. This includes Hobart, Sydney and Townsville. Part of the deceit of the climate hoax is never to acknowledge that. Just look at that wild report Bowen released recently.

1851 fires burnt roughly 1/5 of the area the 2019-20 fires. 5 million hectares vs 24 million. Penfoldian logic would tell us that means climate change has made bushfires 5 times worse.

Thanks for the attempted deceit Penfold. As explained previously and easily verified, rising heat is far more deadly than cold, so more will die from heat and more in total. You were shown this but you do not understand it thanks to your wooden political agenda.

Your change of subject was of course owing to the fact you had already lost the prior argument. That is normal for you.