Harrison man summonsed over Braddon hit and run

bundah said :

Ozi said :

bundah said :

Just to further strengthen my claims that the DPP are drowning due to a lack of resources this is even more recent

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-20/dpp-struggling-to-cope-with-growing-workload/4767434

But don’t worry for Simon says the funding cuts are only $110,000 out of an overall budget of nearly $10 million.

See everything is fine it’s business as usual in the utterly farked up mind of the AG!

Hmm perhaps we are arguing over different things. I agree that DPP are completely snowed under, trying their best with a lot less resources or experience that they should have.

Junior lawyers lose cases because they don’t have time to read briefs until they are sitting in court, and the defence lawyers are better paid, have ample time to prepare, and more importantly made all their mistakes when they too cut their teeth in the DPP before heading down the more lucrative private practice / defence law path.

So yes: overworked, underpayed, often unexperienced lawyers trying to convict bad people = a bad thing.

My point is that you seemed to be angry about the amount of time taken to charge him. I suspect this hold up was with Police as they need to compile the brief of evidence and in almost all cases will set the date of the first court appearance prior to DPP getting the brief. So due to this I imagine it was not the DPP and their being understaffed that led to the 7 month delay. And my suspicion (again, I don’t know the details) is that the evidence to prove the charge took longer than your everyday, run of the mill drunk driver / assault etc.

Not anger as such but more exasperated with the state of affairs under Corbell who as overseer of law and order in this territory has, through his actions, ensured that we have a second rate judiciary and compromised the effectiveness of the DPP and police by denying them additional, necessary resources to be really effective.

The most effective method of cracking down on crime and getting appropriate outcomes within a reasonable period of time is by providing those whose job it is to deal with these issues with adequate resources. This clearly has not happened and Corbell continues to maintain his tired stupid line that there is no real problem with the status quo, which is total utter bullshit!

As to why it has taken 7 months to charge the driver my assumption is that it’s a combination of time taken by police and the likelihood that the DPP have had to put the case in a ‘holding pattern’ until it could be brought before the courts. What was undeniable from the outset was that the perpetrator hit the pedestrians causing them serious injury and drove off without stopping as was evident from the CCTV. In addition he presented himself to police three days later and was questioned. There was absolutely no doubt in my mind that he was going to be charged with either culpable or negligent driving causing GBH but having to wait 7 months is I believe totally unacceptable and this is where I go back to Corbell and his stubborn idiocy.

If he handed himself in, surely it was because he had done what was inferred in the video. Accordingly, he would then made some admissions regarding this matter one assumes. Did the cops say “sorry mate, we don’t believe you” and send him off for seven months while they investigated?

Ozi said :

bundah said :

Just to further strengthen my claims that the DPP are drowning due to a lack of resources this is even more recent

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-20/dpp-struggling-to-cope-with-growing-workload/4767434

But don’t worry for Simon says the funding cuts are only $110,000 out of an overall budget of nearly $10 million.

See everything is fine it’s business as usual in the utterly farked up mind of the AG!

Hmm perhaps we are arguing over different things. I agree that DPP are completely snowed under, trying their best with a lot less resources or experience that they should have.

Junior lawyers lose cases because they don’t have time to read briefs until they are sitting in court, and the defence lawyers are better paid, have ample time to prepare, and more importantly made all their mistakes when they too cut their teeth in the DPP before heading down the more lucrative private practice / defence law path.

So yes: overworked, underpayed, often unexperienced lawyers trying to convict bad people = a bad thing.

My point is that you seemed to be angry about the amount of time taken to charge him. I suspect this hold up was with Police as they need to compile the brief of evidence and in almost all cases will set the date of the first court appearance prior to DPP getting the brief. So due to this I imagine it was not the DPP and their being understaffed that led to the 7 month delay. And my suspicion (again, I don’t know the details) is that the evidence to prove the charge took longer than your everyday, run of the mill drunk driver / assault etc.

Not anger as such but more exasperated with the state of affairs under Corbell who as overseer of law and order in this territory has, through his actions, ensured that we have a second rate judiciary and compromised the effectiveness of the DPP and police by denying them additional, necessary resources to be really effective.

The most effective method of cracking down on crime and getting appropriate outcomes within a reasonable period of time is by providing those whose job it is to deal with these issues with adequate resources. This clearly has not happened and Corbell continues to maintain his tired stupid line that there is no real problem with the status quo, which is total utter bullshit!

As to why it has taken 7 months to charge the driver my assumption is that it’s a combination of time taken by police and the likelihood that the DPP have had to put the case in a ‘holding pattern’ until it could be brought before the courts. What was undeniable from the outset was that the perpetrator hit the pedestrians causing them serious injury and drove off without stopping as was evident from the CCTV. In addition he presented himself to police three days later and was questioned. There was absolutely no doubt in my mind that he was going to be charged with either culpable or negligent driving causing GBH but having to wait 7 months is I believe totally unacceptable and this is where I go back to Corbell and his stubborn idiocy.

bundah said :

Just to further strengthen my claims that the DPP are drowning due to a lack of resources this is even more recent

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-20/dpp-struggling-to-cope-with-growing-workload/4767434

But don’t worry for Simon says the funding cuts are only $110,000 out of an overall budget of nearly $10 million.

See everything is fine it’s business as usual in the utterly farked up mind of the AG!

Hmm perhaps we are arguing over different things. I agree that DPP are completely snowed under, trying their best with a lot less resources or experience that they should have.

Junior lawyers lose cases because they don’t have time to read briefs until they are sitting in court, and the defence lawyers are better paid, have ample time to prepare, and more importantly made all their mistakes when they too cut their teeth in the DPP before heading down the more lucrative private practice / defence law path.

So yes: overworked, underpayed, often unexperienced lawyers trying to convict bad people = a bad thing.

My point is that you seemed to be angry about the amount of time taken to charge him. I suspect this hold up was with Police as they need to compile the brief of evidence and in almost all cases will set the date of the first court appearance prior to DPP getting the brief. So due to this I imagine it was not the DPP and their being understaffed that led to the 7 month delay. And my suspicion (again, I don’t know the details) is that the evidence to prove the charge took longer than your everyday, run of the mill drunk driver / assault etc.

Just to further strengthen my claims that the DPP are drowning due to a lack of resources this is even more recent

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-20/dpp-struggling-to-cope-with-growing-workload/4767434

But don’t worry for Simon says the funding cuts are only $110,000 out of an overall budget of nearly $10 million.

See everything is fine it’s business as usual in the utterly farked up mind of the AG!

Ozi said :

bundah said :

@Troll-stiffer

So you are totally oblivious to the fact that the perpetrator handed himself in to police three day after the hit and run?

Are you also unaware that the DPP is understaffed and therefore snowed under with cases that need to go through the courts which is presumably why it’s taken seven months to lay charges?

Or … [blah snip blah] peruse

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/man-hands-himself-into-police-over-braddon-hit-and-run-20130213-2ecak.html

oh now I see… you are one of those who reads something in such an esteemed newspaper as the Canberra Times and then believes themselves to know everything there is to know. That makes things so much clearer.

Because obviously the Canberra Times is completely across all the evidence the Po-Po had, and the reasons for the delay.

*sighs*

Oh look even the ABC are in on the conspiracy and they’ve apparently even reported that the Americans landed on the moon back in 1969…

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-13/canberra-hit-and-run-update/4516706

But wait there are more lies perpetrated by the ABC in relation to the DPP’s workload. When will the lies end??

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-20/heavy-workload-causes-dpp-delays/4082540

bundah said :

@Troll-stiffer

So you are totally oblivious to the fact that the perpetrator handed himself in to police three day after the hit and run?

Are you also unaware that the DPP is understaffed and therefore snowed under with cases that need to go through the courts which is presumably why it’s taken seven months to lay charges?

Or … [blah snip blah] peruse

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/man-hands-himself-into-police-over-braddon-hit-and-run-20130213-2ecak.html

oh now I see… you are one of those who reads something in such an esteemed newspaper as the Canberra Times and then believes themselves to know everything there is to know. That makes things so much clearer.

Because obviously the Canberra Times is completely across all the evidence the Po-Po had, and the reasons for the delay.

*sighs*

I don’t know why they don’t just charge people who weaponise their motor vehicles with attempted murder. I hope he gets a good long time in the AMC to think about what a deadshit he’s been.

So, does anyone know what became of the injured man? Where his recovery is at?

bundah said :

tuco said :

Coffee – check. Internet connection- check. This should be good.

Or it could be very disappointing and all over bar the trolling.

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Well played. I like the verb trolling – it seems so gentle and peaceful.

tuco said :

Coffee – check. Internet connection- check. This should be good.

Or it could be very disappointing and all over bar the trolling.

Here is the worst possible scenario for the perpetrator which can only happen in another universe

A person who, by the culpable driving of a motor vehicle, causes grievous bodily harm to another person is guilty of an offence punishable, on conviction, by imprisonment for 10 years. However, for an aggravated offence against subsection (4), the maximum penalty is imprisonment for 12 years. For this section, a person shall be taken to drive a motor vehicle culpably if the person drives the vehicle— (a) negligently; or (b) while under the influence of alcohol, or a drug, to such an extent as to be incapable of having proper control of the vehicle.