Lock up your cars

In other news, the Bureau of Meteorology warns people not to leave valuable items outside due to the chance of rain.

Stevian said :

It’s a fact. Ask your local plod. In the case of a residence, and your motor vehicle is an extension of such, to facilitate access (ie leave the window or door open/unlocked) makes it at least questionable that any crime has been committed and admits the very real possibility that you willfully complicit.

What rubbish. There is no such thing here as the American “break and enter”. It doesn’t matter whether the doors are locked or not. I suggest you read the legislation, start with the Ciminal Code 2002 section 311 – Burglary:

(1) A person commits an offence (burglary) if the person enters or remains in a building as a trespasser with intent—
(a) to commit theft of any property in the building; or
(b) to commit an offence that involves causing harm, or threatening to cause harm, to anyone in the building; or
(c) to commit an offence in the building that—
(i) involves causing damage to property; and
(ii) is punishable by imprisonment for 5 years or longer.
Maximum penalty: 1 400 penalty units, imprisonment for 14 years
or both.

Does it mention there anything about the doors being unlocked? Didn’t think so…

I think it may be an offence to leave your car keys in the car (so a word of warning to people who keep a spare key hidden somewhere in or on the car). Leaving it unlocked would probably not be illegal, but not clever in any built up area. If you want to, move to a low-crime area like the country or small country towns.

Your house is another matter – if you leave the front door wide open and someone walks in without permission, they are committing an offence, though it might only be trespass rather than break and enter. Since they didn’t have to break in. If they take something then they’ve committed theft. But it’s a much lesser offence than break enter and steal.

Cars are highly regulated by government, e.g. licensing and registration and insurance, speeding, intoxication etc. In comparison there are very few laws relating to your home (smoke alarms and pool fences, noise etc). Governments clearly see car use as a privilege to be regulated and rationed, whereas your home is a right.

As a rough guide, the more effort the offender has to go to to commit the crime, the more serious it is. If they threaten you, it becomes robbery or if you are at home they may be charged with aggravated burglary. I’ve never understood why in the latter circumstances police and DPP charge people with aggravated burglary instead of robbery or armed robbery, which generally has a higher penalty and is much more obviously a “violent” offence on their criminal record. Aggravated burglary can be “aggravated” solely by being with a co-offender or carrying a tool.

On a similar note, why wasn’t Russell Field (as an example of a clear pattern in prosecution practice) also charged with firearms offences, so that when the murder prosecution failed, he could still be convicted of the firearms offence, instead of just the drugs offence he was convicted of.

MHW

Two words come to mind.. bait car

Catch all these crooks and make them always wonder if what theyre stealing from is a bait car..

astrojax said :

Stevian said :

carnardly said :

so if our cars get broken into because there’s stuff visible its our fault?

i like that….

You have a responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Otherwise you are aiding and abetting, which is in itself a crime.

aiding and abetting because i leave my car unlocked? do me a favour. i should be able to leave my front door open and go away for a month and come home to find that no-one else has taken the liberty, or anything else (of course, i am pragmatic enough to realise this utopia is a false one, but am saddened by that nonetheless) but please don’t spout such rubbish as if you believe it…

It’s a fact. Ask your local plod. In the case of a residence, and your motor vehicle is an extension of such, to facilitate access (ie leave the window or door open/unlocked) makes it at least questionable that any crime has been committed and admits the very real possibility that you willfully complicit.

You may not like it but it is a fact

Stevian said :

carnardly said :

so if our cars get broken into because there’s stuff visible its our fault?

i like that….

You have a responsibility to take reasonable precautions. Otherwise you are aiding and abetting, which is in itself a crime.

aiding and abetting because i leave my car unlocked? do me a favour. i should be able to leave my front door open and go away for a month and come home to find that no-one else has taken the liberty, or anything else (of course, i am pragmatic enough to realise this utopia is a false one, but am saddened by that nonetheless) but please don’t spout such rubbish as if you believe it…

Or you could not park in Tuggeranong.

edlang said :

he’s climbing in your windows
he’s snatching your GPS up
trying to break in
i tell ya
hide your keys
hide your cash…

10/10 – my thoughts went to this too. 🙂

Bit late for this reminder. It would have been better if was put out before the school holidays.

Captain RAAF said :

The plods attended the house opposite my feral neighbours on Sunday, what’s the odd they are one of the victims…..

I am endeavoring to find out.

You’re going to confess are you?

You ability to write fiction is deteriorating