Police Wrap - 25 November 2010

Jim Jones said :

Holditz said :

I’m not saying that the message issued by White Ribbon Day is bad, I’m just saying this is what I’d like to see in the future is that any violence in the home is not OK, whether it be perpetrated by man or woman.

(I could go on a bit more but that would be semantic analysis.)

Yes, but that muddies the waters unnecessarily. Events such as White Ribbon Day, Reclaim the Night, and even all the pink ribbon breast cancer stuff – all of these work because they have a simple, targeted message that is easily conveyed to the general public.

Attempting to wedge more into that simple message detracts from the effectiveness of the message (for example, “violence against women” as opposed to “violence against weomen, and violence against children by adults, and also we should probably add that some men are abused by women and they should be included too [etc ad nauseum]”).

+1 it turns it into grandstanding by Pommy Bastards Oppressed White Middle Class Males Movement.

C’mon JJ, what isn’t simple about the message “Any violence in the home is not acceptable”?

Holditz said :

I’m not saying that the message issued by White Ribbon Day is bad, I’m just saying this is what I’d like to see in the future is that any violence in the home is not OK, whether it be perpetrated by man or woman.

(I could go on a bit more but that would be semantic analysis.)

Yes, but that muddies the waters unnecessarily. Events such as White Ribbon Day, Reclaim the Night, and even all the pink ribbon breast cancer stuff – all of these work because they have a simple, targeted message that is easily conveyed to the general public.

Attempting to wedge more into that simple message detracts from the effectiveness of the message (for example, “violence against women” as opposed to “violence against weomen, and violence against children by adults, and also we should probably add that some men are abused by women and they should be included too [etc ad nauseum]”).

I’m not saying that the message issued by White Ribbon Day is bad, I’m just saying this is what I’d like to see in the future is that any violence in the home is not OK, whether it be perpetrated by man or woman.

(I could go on a bit more but that would be semantic analysis.)

Holditz said :

= but violence by adult women against children occurs as well.

You mean child abuse?

It’s a good cause, let’s not detract from it by getting into semantic analysis that a good deal of the general public finds obnoxious and offputting. The usual chumps did the same thing with ‘reclaim the night’ recently and it doesn’t help matters at all.

I reservedly applaud this cause, but I would prefer to take away the gender specific language. Domestic violence of any form by either sex is not acceptable. Violent action isn’t initiated by sex- it’s initiated by people with power agaist the weak. We often focus on men beating up on women and children (and in the majority of cases this is the case) but violence by adult women against children occurs as well.

I look forward to the day when we can say that violence against anyone is unacceptable.