19 August 2025

Productivity roundtable consensus? Really?

| By Chris Johnson
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Jim Chalmers, Treasurer of Australia

Treasurer Jim Chalmers wants roundtable outcomes reached by consensus … and he already knows what that should be. Photo: Michelle Kroll.

The Federal Government’s productivity talkfest is underway at Parliament House today (19 August) and it’s clear from the outset that it is already a different beast from what it was initially envisioned to be.

Treasurer Jim Chalmers says he wants consensus from those sitting around the table discussing Australia’s future, but there is a slim chance of that happening in any genuine form.

There are simply too many opposing agendas, loud voices and big egos in the room.

Agreement couldn’t even be reached on what to call the three-day summit – and that was only from within the government’s own ranks.

What was loudly touted as a productivity roundtable suddenly (and quietly) got slapped with the name Economic Reform Roundtable as the conversation morphed from productivity to taxation.

Once the Treasurer let loose during one of his National Press Club appearances that no discussion about productivity could be had without including talk of tax reform, the meeting’s agenda took on a whole new life.

It’s not wildly off the mark to suggest the agenda even got somewhat hijacked.

Suddenly, everyone with the slightest interest in the event began discussing taxes they would like to see changed, dropped, introduced, increased, or decreased.

Those invited to take part in the summit began issuing statements and holding media conferences about what must be the roundtable’s priorities; some even demanded that certain outcomes had to be reached for it to be considered a success.

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That could have been an intentional ploy on the part of the government, because the discussions heating up on the journey to this three-day gathering have now built an expectation that some new form of levies (read taxes) will be gifted to the Australian people once it’s all over.

The government will be able to reference (blame) the roundtable when explaining the need for these extra imposts.

But exactly what they might be is supposedly still to be determined right now. There is certainly no shortage of suggestions.

Some fresh ideas have come from the Productivity Commission, which was commissioned to prepare a number of papers to be bandied around the table.

On some fronts, they have included significant forward thinking worth canvassing over the three days.

Others of its proposals are controversially provocative, like the suggestion that copyright laws not be applied to artificial intelligence, allowing AI platforms to rip off the creators of Australian content – writers, musicians, artists, etc.

If that is how productivity is to be enhanced in this country, the future looks disturbing.

With all the grandstanding taking place over the last days and weeks, however, it is hard to see how any outcome from this week’s roundtable will be reached by unanimous vote.

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Unions butting heads against the business lobby, while everyone is tripping over the NGO community sector on the way in isn’t the formula for consensus.

Then there’s the outright politics of it all.

Deputy Opposition Leader Ted O’Brien is in the room.

That’s a nice (unavoidable) gesture on the part of the government to include the Coalition in the discussions, but does anyone believe Mr O’Brien is going to emerge from them patting Labor on the back over a job well done?

We’ve also had some leaks from Treasury.

The leaked advice (some last week and some today) contains a series of recommendations from the Economic Reform Roundtable – in other words, recommendations from a meeting that hasn’t even yet begun.

While the government says recommendations are a ‘routine’ part of the preparation process, the Coalition is crying foul.

Opposition Leader Sussan Ley is now suggesting the whole roundtable is a ruse with a predetermined outcome favoured by Labor.

“There are further leaks today that say this whole exercise is being choreographed,” she told Nine’s Today show.

“It’s all been lined up. Statements are ready to go out. People are going there in good faith, and they want to see outcomes.

“They want to see us growing the economic pie, and they want to see Australians pay less tax and be rewarded for their effort.

“And I fear that none of those things are actually on the agenda at this productivity roundtable.”

It’s probably a wise thing then that Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has spent the past few days hosing down suggestions the roundtable is designed to do anything more than implement the ‘mandate’ he was already handed at this year’s election.

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Incidental Tourist5:34 pm 20 Aug 25

I think we do need productivity discussion. But we don’t need this is a dressing for more tax and more wasteful spending. In fact I’d like productivity discussion to go hand to hand with discussion about reducing excessive entitlements. These excessive entitlements don’t do any good – they trap generations in the welfare cycle and become undue burden to the rest of society. It is Okay to grant a modest roof over the head to people in genie need but it is not Okay to grant needy large luxury detached homes virtually free of charge loaded with free services.

Hi Incidental Tourist – Can you detail some of these excessive entitlements?

Are they the 10’s of billions the Government forgoes in revenues from international oil/gas companies?

Are they the massive subsidies the Government provides for industry?

Are they the the structuring of investment and capital policies to favour those with the most in our society?

Or do you mean the sub-poverty level moneys provided to those unemployed? the elderly? students? No one gets given a ‘large luxury detached home’? wtf are you talking about?

Those with the least are not hurting you.

Incidental Tourist11:04 pm 21 Aug 25

ACT Gov builds large free public houses to needy. And they sell new land at insane price over 6 annual wage (without single brick on it). Add house on it and the price tag comes to 11-12 annual wage. It is absurd that a working young person cannot afford buying new home. But “needy” who does not work gets it free. It is easier to become “needy” than work multiply jobs to pay mortgage for 30 years. So again, public housing should be given free to needy, but this housing should be modest. A working person should afford better house than those who don’t work.

A lot of bickering in the comments below. Very few proactive suggestions though.
Surprised?
No.

HiddenDragon9:15 pm 19 Aug 25

“Suddenly, everyone with the slightest interest in the event began discussing taxes they would like to see changed, dropped, introduced, increased, or decreased.”

Yes – lots of nakedly self-interested arguments to shift the taxation and regulatory goal posts, but not too much in the way of practical detail about implementation beyond airy suggestions that others might need to make sacrifices.

The coalition did nothing on productivity for 8 years. The whinging from the blindly partisan is because they’re not used to governments who actively seek to do their actual jobs.

Economic statistics suggest that’s not the case, with productivity always positive with one covid exception. Under Labor productivity has gone backwards. The ABS have a nice graph, you can find it yourself.

But sadly what this means is it would have been better if this Labor government had done nothing. Instead the nation has gone backwards. Pretty disastrous really.

Name one successful productivity initiative under the Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison clown show.

Good luck with that.

Nice attempted diversion but no cigar. The simple fact is productivity went up every quarter (except one) and every year under the Coalition.

Under this dreadful government productivity is going backwards faster than you can say “carbon tax”.

Sounds like this fact comes as a surprise 😮

Nice attempted diversion but no cigar. The simple fact is that you cannot name any initiatives taken by the previous government to raise productivity. Any small productivity improvement was the the result of luck not good management.

The only recent government that sought to address productivity is the current one.

Sounds like this fact comes as a surprise 😮

Penfool showing again a complete inability to separate correlation from causality. No surprises there.

But yes, please name what actions your lovechild governments of Morrison and Abbott took from a productivity perspective? I think everyone is keen to hear what wondrous policies they rolled out.

That is, surely you want to prove causality don’t you? Don’t worry, it doesn’t necessitate understanding percentages, so you are a chance of being able to do so.

Perhaps you should read the article young chap. It’s about the productivity round table happening as we speak based on the current productivity crisis.

But your attempt at deflection is noted and is hilarious 😂. 🏳️‍ ?

1. Productivity growth % has been in decline pretty reliably since 09/10 (ABS).
2. Productivity growth % has been positive that entire time (ABS).
3. Do you just make it up or regurgitate Sky News?

Penfold, name a single productivity inactive successfully implemented by the prior government.

But your attempt at deflection is noted and is hilarious 😂. 🏳️‍ ?(sic)

seano you’re starting to sound like a parrot 🦜 now, repeating tired old lines over and over.

It’s quite sleep 😴 💤 generating 🤣

Neither MC, I referred to the ABS stats. Even you could too !

Penfold, name a single productivity inactive successfully implemented by the prior government.

As ever here the only repetition is you losing again by running away from another one of your lame nonsensical claims.

It’s somewhat ironic seano that on an article about productivity you are demonstrating an enormous amount of laziness. If you’re that interested in Coalition government productivity policies, why don’t you simply google it ?

Now it’s a bit of a long-winded link, but was very easy to find. Even you could have. It’s named “The Coalition’s Policy to Boost Productivity and Reduce Regulation”. It’s even got a relevant date, though you’ll have to open it to find it. Can’t do all the work for lazies now can we.

Btw sorry about the big word, but it’s not a hyperlink. You’ll have to copy and paste it to open the document.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/fapa_ctte/estimates/bud_1415/pmc/pm34_att01.pdf

All your answers are there, including red tape and green tape cuts. Josh F did an amazing job.

But what did they actually do Penfold, you’re apparently good at “research”…please point to the legislation.

Talk about desperate. A 2013 policy document from a government with a list of achievements that could be fit on to the back of a postage stamp in big letters….LMAO.

Genuis stuff as always.

You asked for policy seano, not legislation. You were provided policy.

But at least now you acknowledge achievements.

seano you are hard to please. You asked for policies, in your laziness to find any yourself. I provided you with policies.

Now for someone who thinks they know government stuff, you’re very naive.

Governments implement policies through several mechanisms seano and “legislation” is only one of those.

Have you spent much time in the same postcode as the public service, local or commonwealth ?

“You asked for policy seano, not legislation. You were provided policy.”

Wow that’s cringeworthy Penfold even by your standards.

Here’s what I actually asked:
“Name one successful productivity initiative under the Abbott/Turnbull/Morrison clown show.”

While you’re running around in a multipost tirade banging on about twelve year old policy documents from a failed government and making stuff up about “mechanisms” because you can’t actually point to a single concrete thing the coalition government did to raise productivity you clear demonstrate that you’re comically clueless, wrong again and apparently quite upset about being found out…again.

lol.

It’s far simpler than that seano, I’m just looking at the Coalition’s track record compared to the current mob.

The term “light years apart” is accurate. 🌞🚀

What track record?

You can’t point to a single concrete thing that the Coalition did to address productivity.

You’ve once again been caught out.

seano you’re stuck on repeat, bit like a scratched record.

And Penfold you refuse to answer the question, what concrete actions did the Coalition take to address productivity? Your refusal to back your claims or retract them are both craven and unsurprising.

So that’s the sort of self-serving drivel that drives your thinking.

Thanks for the explanation.

Capital Retro4:23 pm 19 Aug 25

Maybe self-serving but definitely self-funded which is an alien concept for your mob, Axon.

If you’re watching that clown uncritically then than explains a lot.

“Self funded”

Whilst asking for and promoting multiple tax concessions and relying on increasing levels of government funded services.

Logic is an alien concept for you CR.

“your mob” Capital Retro?

You really are quite clueless.

Capital Retro1:57 pm 19 Aug 25

This talkfest didn’t even have a round table, just a collection of desks shaped into a square so it was doomed from the start.

And the union’s first proposal was so old, so anti-business and so regressive the BCA called it a crock of sh!t.

At least the MBA were a bit kinder, suggesting rather sensibly that “another levy on business “won’t magically create more tradies”.”

Could someone explain it to Albo please using really simple words.

Well Chris we can all agree that our falling productivity and standard of living desperately need to be addressed.

Though I was curious that you didn’t mention the lazy unions suggesting that a four day week would boost productivity.

Or that the Productivity Commission demanding a carbon tax to further increase energy costs and belt the economy again was not mentioned.

And it is costing?.

Capital Retro4:17 pm 19 Aug 25

And the chairperson of the Productivity Commission in her speech mentioned the (yawn) perils of “climate change”.

Productivity, jobs, our standard of living and economic prosperity.

Our falling productivity and living standards both come down to sending all our manufacturing and profits offshore without even being smart enough to collect taxes to pay for education and healthcare like the Scandinavians. Instead it’s actual news that Chevron might pay taxes for the first time in decades. It’s a pity this article doesn’t give more space to some of the ideas for making things better rather than just sending all our business and money overseas.

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