Puppy Liberation!

Peppablack said :

Yes, I did choose to spend $ on the pup because I wanted to give her a better home than a glass box, and she was the only one left, and secondly, the pup I purchased from woden pet shop is not a designer dog xbreed as you have referred to, she is a x husky/kelpie. I was not looking for a dog that day, but wanted to give her a better home, high price tag or not.

Wow, they really did suck you in, didn’t they? They probably have a photo of you on a piece of butcher’s paper in their staff training room with the heading: “Customer type: emotive impulse buyer – easy”.

I’m sure you love your dog to bits, but I have huge concerns about people buying a dog on a whim. One of the other main reason why selling pups from pet stores should be banned.

carnardly said :

you could’ve also bought an equally lovely crossbred dog from the RSPCA for $250.

You chose to spend that amount of money on that puppy.

Same as poodle spend $1200 on “jugs” “oodles” of any flavour – eg cavoodle, schnoodle, labradoodle etc – all of which are not designer dogs, just average crossbred ones.

Nothing wrong with a crossbred dog by any means, but they sure suck in many with a designer (cough) price tag.

Yes, I did choose to spend $ on the pup because I wanted to give her a better home than a glass box, and she was the only one left, and secondly, the pup I purchased from woden pet shop is not a designer dog xbreed as you have referred to, she is a x husky/kelpie. I was not looking for a dog that day, but wanted to give her a better home, high price tag or not. And the RSPCA has this xbreed? i don’t think so. I was just commenting on the health and well-being of animals subjected to being displayed in pet shops as an object. Oscars law is a good example on what should be done.

dvaey said :

carnardly said :

you could’ve also bought an equally lovely crossbred dog from the RSPCA for $250.

You chose to spend that amount of money on that puppy.

Many years ago we tried to get a dog from the RSPCA, after our last dog from the RSPCA passed away at the age of 14. We underwent two interviews at the RSPCA office, then had an inspector come and visit our property. We were told that the 7′ colorbond fence was okay but the 5′ high gate was “not suitable for keeping a dog”. They apologised and off they went, without approving us to adopt a dog.

A couple of weeks later, a pup came up for sale on local noticeboard at the shops. One phone call and we were invited to come and pick a dog from the litter same-day. 7 years later, he’s a very happy healthy dog, who has not managed to scale the colorbond fence, despite RSPCA’s thoughts on it.

Many years ago, the RSPCA used to be a fantastic organisation, with the interests of rehoming animals. Over the past few years though, Ive noticed the prices have skyrocketed and their adoption process makes you feel like a criminal dog abuser before theyve even said hello. Is it any wonder the RSPCA has such a hard time rehoming dogs, when they charge as much as a pet shop and as others have mentioned, like the pet shop they will not provide any history of the animal you buy due to ‘privacy’ reasons.

I found the RSPCA’s rules were very strict when I last went to look for a dog there. I understand why they are being so cautious, but it would be nice if they could be a bit more flexible and assess potential owners on a case by case basis instead of following their checklist so rigidly.

The pound doesn’t seem to have any criteria, which I think goes a bit too far the other way. I found the rescue orgs a happy medium. Most will put you through some sort of vetting process, but they are really into matching the right dog to the right owner and a commitment to take the dog for daily walks and deal with issues as they arise scores way higher than a 7 foot fence.

buzz819 said :

Scare mongering from the old days when these stores were unregulated is not valid today. The dogs in the ACT have to come from breeders that have recognised standards as per ACT regulation.

Source? What standards and what regulations?

If you buy a pup from a pet store you most likely support puppy farming. I don’t care about the purebred factor myself – huge mongrel fan here – but puppy farms/mills are horrible places run by people who put profit before their animals’ wellbeing and health.

And keeping a pup in a pet shop where it is left alone for at least 12 hours a day is incredibly cruel too.

And also, how do you know that your pups were purebred? Does it say on the paperwork that they were registered with the ANKC?

Personally I don’t see why there is a need to buy from any breeder. There are plenty of dogs already that are looking for a home. I own my second rescue dog and I have never had a moment of regret.

Fortunately – and probably at least partially because of Canberra’s high level of education – there are many who agree with me here. We have the lowest kill rate of all pounds in Oz and at least 3/4 of the dog owners I meet here don’t know exactly what breeds their dog is because they got it from t/he pound/RSPCA/rescue organisation.

buzz819 said :

I’m not going to agree with the comments about mongrel dogs with illness etc. I currently have two cocker spaniels bought from Pet’s Paradise, they are extremely happy, healthy and pure bred.

Scare mongering from the old days when these stores were unregulated is not valid today. The dogs in the ACT have to come from breeders that have recognised standards as per ACT regulation.

Sorry but if you believe that you are clearly not aware of the truth and that though the legislation is in place, it is so easy to get around. Perhaps you should see this site: http://www.oscarslaw.org/

Watch the ABCs 7:30 report that is embedded on the Media Page of Oscars Law, then tell me how well regulated this industry is.

carnardly said :

you could’ve also bought an equally lovely crossbred dog from the RSPCA for $250.

You chose to spend that amount of money on that puppy.

Many years ago we tried to get a dog from the RSPCA, after our last dog from the RSPCA passed away at the age of 14. We underwent two interviews at the RSPCA office, then had an inspector come and visit our property. We were told that the 7′ colorbond fence was okay but the 5′ high gate was “not suitable for keeping a dog”. They apologised and off they went, without approving us to adopt a dog.

A couple of weeks later, a pup came up for sale on local noticeboard at the shops. One phone call and we were invited to come and pick a dog from the litter same-day. 7 years later, he’s a very happy healthy dog, who has not managed to scale the colorbond fence, despite RSPCA’s thoughts on it.

Many years ago, the RSPCA used to be a fantastic organisation, with the interests of rehoming animals. Over the past few years though, Ive noticed the prices have skyrocketed and their adoption process makes you feel like a criminal dog abuser before theyve even said hello. Is it any wonder the RSPCA has such a hard time rehoming dogs, when they charge as much as a pet shop and as others have mentioned, like the pet shop they will not provide any history of the animal you buy due to ‘privacy’ reasons.

While I do not condone the theft from a shop I am hopping that the puppie is somewhere safe, where he is being looked after, played with and well fed (it is a Lab after all) and doesnt involve a small glass cage.

agree with all the above about the general undesirability of puppies (and kittens) in cages in shops and about the cruelty of leaving a puppy alone for so long. They are social, and they need contact. When Animal Lib is tired of chickens on battery farms, this might be a new project.

you could’ve also bought an equally lovely crossbred dog from the RSPCA for $250. You chose to spend that amount of money on that puppy.

Same as poodle spend $1200 on “jugs” “oodles” of any flavour – eg cavoodle, schnoodle, labradoodle etc – all of which are not designer dogs, just average crossbred ones. Nothing wrong with a crossbred dog by any means, but they sure suck in many with a designer (cough) price tag.

when we got out kitten from pet rescue, the lady told us that pet shops dump kittens when they become to big to sell in the shop, just like animal circus was banned in the ACT so should pet shops that keep animals in small glass boxes.

I purchased a xbreed pup from the Woden pet shop 5 years ago. . At 8 weeks old she was infested with worms (longer than her little body) and fleas. . . The only explanation that was given was maybe the mother wasn’t wormed before or after the litter of pups. They wouldn’t give me any info on the parents cause of privacy, as they guessed the xbreed, but we’re happy to sell the pup to me for over $600. I have never purchased any animal from a pet shop, but in this case the little pup is now my best mate. I did have to fork out a lot of $ to get her treated properly at such an early age. . . This could have been avoided as pet shops are supposed to sell animals with a clean bill of health, especially at such a young age. So not all dogs come from reputable breeders from pet shops!

Also worth disagreeing with the alarmist “why wasn’t it being fed/watered/cared for” guff … how much feed/water/care does a dog that isn’t there need?

Having said that, I wouldn’t buy a dog from a pet shop in a pink fit.

I’m not going to agree with the comments about mongrel dogs with illness etc. I currently have two cocker spaniels bought from Pet’s Paradise, they are extremely happy, healthy and pure bred.

Scare mongering from the old days when these stores were unregulated is not valid today. The dogs in the ACT have to come from breeders that have recognised standards as per ACT regulation.

buzz819 said :

Why did it go 18 hours? I think that is obvious, different person working in the morning to the one who closed. The one who closed starts work at midday, comes in, says ohh did you sell the puppy… The rest is history.

Great way to run a business. No wonder they are doing so well!

Pet shops help support the puppy farm industry, which is a cruel and debilitating environment for the parents of the puppies. If the petshops cannot tell you where the pups come from, with histories of the parents, then don’t buy them. The only way we can put an end to puppy farms is to stop supporting petshops. The mark-up on pet shop puppies is enormous and often for a mix-breed mongrel, which looks cute, but who knows what genetic diseases they are hiding and what social disorders they have from being brought up in a dark shed with hundreds of other dogs and puppies in filthy conditions.

Why did it go 18 hours? I think that is obvious, different person working in the morning to the one who closed. The one who closed starts work at midday, comes in, says ohh did you sell the puppy… The rest is history.

Coincidence that there is a Pet Mince thread?

fabforty said :

I have also wondered what happens to the pups and kittens that don’t sell while they are still in the cute stage.

http://region.com.au/pet-mince/72631

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These people are clearly not caring for the animals they are selling if no-one checked on that puppy first thing in the morning.

I have also wondered what happens to the pups and kittens that don’t sell while they are still in the cute stage.

Pets Paradise is far from living up to its name, and Woden is especially bad, but I’m still amazed that they would leave a young puppy locked up alone for that long. I hope whoever nicked it is at least looking after it.

Pet shops in general are disgusting but the fact that they took that long to notice it was gone just disgraceful. Does no one check on the welfare of the animals when they come in of a morning?

Unless it was an inside job?

Wait a goddamned minute. Why has a puppy gone approx 18 hours without any checking on it, checking food and water or spending any time with it.

Animals in petshops need to be banned. They are not cared for properly and lack the attentiona nd love that puppies and kittens need in order to develop properly. I hope it was taken by someone who is going to love it and care for it like it deserves.

Poor dog, i’m sure it’s going to miss it’s tiny glass box.

Why did it take them till 12pm to figure out they were missing a puppy?

Someone tried to steal our cat from our front yard a while back, so going straight to the source is probably a better option. More choice.