30 June 2025

Quotas for women? That's not how democracy works, says Angus Taylor

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Angus Taylor

Shadow defence minister Angus Taylor says imposing quotas for women in Liberal Party preselections would subvert democracy. Photo: Michelle Kroll.

Right-wing Liberal frontbencher Angus Taylor has publicly disagreed with party leader Sussan Ley over quotas for women in Federal Parliament, saying they subvert democratic processes.

His comments have raised questions over his loyalty to the leader and also his own future leadership ambitions.

They have also allowed the Federal Government to point out that the Coalition applies quotas over frontbench positions, but not quotas for women.

In her address to the National Press Club last week, Ms Ley signalled she was open for quotas to be introduced if that meant more women would get preselected to contest seats for the Liberals at the next election.

“Our Party must preselect more women in winnable seats so that we see more Liberal women in Federal Parliament,” the Opposition Leader said on Wednesday (25 June).

“Now, I’m agnostic on specific methods to make it happen, but I am a zealot that it does actually happen.

“Current approaches have clearly not worked, so I am open to any approach that will.

“The Liberal Party operates as a federated model, meaning each state division determines its own preselection rules.

“If some state divisions choose to implement quotas, that is fine. If others don’t, that is also fine. But what is not fine is not having enough women.

“As the first woman leader of our federal party, let me send the clearest possible message – we need to do better, recruit better, retain better and support better.”

Barely two days later, Mr Taylor was making clear he was against quotas for women.

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“I’m not a supporter of quotas,” Mr Taylor said in one interview.

“As Sussan said, this is going to be a matter for state divisions. It’s not something that I think is necessary in order to get the outcome.

“I think attracting, mentoring, retaining great people and great women in the party is incredibly important work for absolutely everybody, for all leaders.”

In another interview, Mr Taylor – who unsuccessfully opposed Ms Ley for the party’s leadership following the May election – was even stronger in views about quotas for women.

“I believe in democratic processes, and I don’t believe in subverting them …,” he said.

“The Labor Party will do things their own way. And they do subvert democracy and that’s a matter for them.

“At the end of the day, if you’re going to have quotas, it means you are going to subvert democratic processes.”

“I think there are better ways of achieving this …

“Mentoring, recruitment, support is the way to make sure you have talented people.

“We absolutely need more women in the party at every level, whether it’s members of our branches, whether it’s on our executives, whether indeed it is as members of parliament and I think there’s a huge job for us.

“I have never been a supporter of quotas.”

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Social Services Minister Tanya Plibersek, however, used her interview on the ABC’s Insiders program on Sunday to point out a contradiction in the Coalition’s attitude towards quotas.

“Well, the Liberal Party do support quotas. They’ve got a quota of National Party MPs that have to be on the front bench,” the Minister said.

“So, they’re happy to have quotas for National Party MPs. It’s just quotas for women that they’re not prepared to use …

“The Labor Party and the Liberals in 1994 had around 14 per cent female representation in the Federal Parliament.

“We’re at 56 per cent now. They’re still around 30 per cent and it’s because they refused to take it seriously.

“You know, they’ve got a target. They’ve got a 50 per cent target, they introduced it in 2016.

“They’ve done nothing to deliver.”

Leader of the Australian Liberal Party, Sussan Ley MP

Opposition Leader Sussan Ley says current approaches to preselecting more women to the Liberal Party have not worked. Photo: Michelle Kroll.

Returning to Ms Ley’s press club speech, it’s clear the new Opposition Leader’s priority is making the party more appealing to women.

It needs to do so, she says, if it is to recover from its recent crushing defeat at the polls.

“In times of crisis, there is always talk of returning to our foundations, often in the context of Sir Robert Menzies,” Ms Ley said.

“The party Menzies founded was not only for women, it was built by them.

“It was women’s groups, women’s voices, and women’s energy that helped shape the Liberal Party.

“The Australian Women’s National League, as well as many other prominent women’s organisations, were central to the formation of our party.

“We must be a Liberal Party that is proudly for women and made up of women.”

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Amanda Kiley7:22 am 01 Jul 25

Old school feminists and suffragettes didn’t fight for a quota, they fought for fairness and equality of opportunity.

HiddenDragon9:15 pm 30 Jun 25

“His comments have raised questions over his loyalty to the leader and also his own future leadership ambitions.”

Difficult to see this any other way, given that there’s actually quite a lot of wriggle room in what Ley said – perhaps Taylor thinks that the only reason the Liberals got their backsides kicked in May is that they weren’t led by a bloke with a decent head of hair……

Representation doesn’t equal demonstration.

If you have someone in a job that’s suited to the job and makes decisions accounting for everyone isn’t that the important thing.

Sure you could demonstrate representation by having a diverse set but they could all believe in something that most people don’t agree with.

The same way the military protects men women and children, it doesn’t require children to serve on the front line.

Swamp Harrier3:39 pm 30 Jun 25

Wonderfully paternalistic of you Henry, proving the problem.

The maximum is 300 words not 8. No idea what your on about

This all rests on the assumption that more women are in fact needed in parliament. As far as I’m aware, this is an essentially untested assumption that has indeed resulted in more women working everywhere but which is only based on some people’s desire for that to happen because they thought it was right – and who might sometimes even have ‘the stats’ to ‘prove it.’

If Australia could have an open, honest and sober debate on the matter, I’m quite sure that those against women working much at all – who I would call the real feminists – would win.

Women, without a doubt, are amazing, but the gifts they have are different to men’s. Celebrating these differences is feminism par excellence.

That either sex can abuse or not fully appreciate the roles more aligned with their gifts is a given, but it doesn’t follow that we should now have to re-invent the wheel

What century are you from? Where did you get the idea that any woman doesn’t work “much at all”? Even the so-called traditional stay-at-home mums and housewives, work extremely hard. It’s just not always in a paid position and not always recognised as valuable work. That doesn’t mean they are not entitled to opinions on, or a role in, the management of the country.

Who decides that either sex should be limited to “roles more aligned with their gift”? Surely it is up to the individual to decide what their role is, not some arbitrary concept from another era.

The reason we have to re-invent the wheel is because it is not working.

Swamp Harrier1:20 pm 30 Jun 25

Vasily M, why do women have a vote?

What follows from that?

@Vasily M
“I’m quite sure that those against women working much at all – who I would call the real feminists …”
Yeah … nah … actually they would be called misogynists.

He is right that quotas are not an ideal of how a democracy should work. However, an archaic preselection system controlled by dinosaurs with entrenched biases against anything other than clones of themselves is also not a great mechanism for democracy.

A parliament that is roughly representative of the population should naturally come to a count that has close to 50% of women representatives and 50% of women in leadership roles. The fact we haven’t arrived there, more that 120 years after women got the vote (130 years in some states), suggests there is a fundamental flaw somewhere.

Bennett Bennett12:36 pm 30 Jun 25

I’m not a fan of Angus Taylor. But that’s my subjective opinion. My objective opinion however, is that he may not have the right skills and qualifications for the role he has had. This logic can then (and should be) applied to any candidate for a given role, including politicians. Why do we constantly see ministers in charge of portfolios where they don’t have aligning qualifications, skills and experience? Is that an ideal outcome? In every day life we logically select the appropriate tool, process, physical item for the intended purpose so that they function, but in the workplace etc, we shouldn’t?

GrumpyGrandpa1:41 pm 30 Jun 25

Hello Megsy,
I’m sorry, however, the concept of 50% of the population being female, therefore 50% of our representatives and then 50% of our leaders should also be female, just doesn’t cut it in the real world.

What we should have is the very best people, in roles. Whether they be politicans, scientists, surgeons, engineers, pilots or every bus and train drivers.

Quotas undermine that concept. Where does this even end? Do we set quotas to ensure equity amoungst racial ethnicity, faith positions, should quotas enable easier entry into medical or trade qualifications?

Rather than predetermined quotas that ignore or sidestep talent, maybe it’d be better to encourage people to be the best version of themselves, regardless of gender, regardless of cultural or societal assumptions.

Grandpa, I never said I was in favour of quotas, just that the existing pre-selection process is flawed and already has a bias that doesn’t produce results reflective of democracy. I also never said that representation had to be exactly 50%; but that over time, in an equal environment, that it should end up roughly around 50% (and it will fluctuate for a variety of reasons, but over time it should average out). That hasn’t happened, nor gotten anywhere near it. That implies the current system needs a rethink.

There is a problem when you have a quota system, in that a very good candidate can often be saddled with the unfair and incorrect accusation that they were just an EEO pick. However, at the moment, good candidates are often facing an extra burden of having to fight ingrained sexism from people who never have their outdated ideas challenged. Get rid of the tired old “we’ve always done it this way” brigade and you can open the parties to good quality, fresh people (male & female).

“I’m sorry, however, the concept of 50% of the population being female, therefore 50% of our representatives and then 50% of our leaders should also be female, just doesn’t cut it in the real world.”

Why doesn’t it? Unless you’re suggesting women aren’t equally capable then this is nonsense, actually it’s nonsense either way.

“What we should have is the very best people, in roles”. That’s literally the point of quotas. The system doesn’t work because the mediocre protect themselves and each other.

Having a quota makes all preselection decisions important. In a world of quotas maybe the Libs pass on Angus Taylor who was a terrible Shadow Treasurer and part of why Dutton lost and maybe instead of wasting a seat on a dope they get different, more capable man or god forbid a woman.

“maybe it’d be better to encourage people to be the best version of themselves”…lmao this is literally the “merit” line of argument that has failed them so badly.

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