28 January 2013

Prison bashing

28 January 2013 | By johnboy

ACT Policing is investigating a serious assault at the Alexander Maconochie Centre (AMC) on Sunday morning (27 January).

Police were called in when a 27-year-old male inmate punched another male inmate in the face, causing serious injuries.

The injured inmate was conveyed to The Canberra Hospital where he underwent emergency surgery. ACT Policing’s Criminal Investigations (CI) team is conducting further investigations into the incident.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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bundah2:56 pm 17 Jul 13

We now have news that the prisoner who bashed a convicted paedophile in Canberra’s jail has been sentenced to six-and-a-half years behind bars.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/more-jail-for-man-who-bashed-paedophile-in-prison-20130717-2q3r7.html

The crimes could at least get Ian King’s age right.He was born in 1943 which would make him either 69 or 70 not 60..

IrishPete12:56 pm 31 Jan 13

James_Ryan said :

I’m not referring to the minister’s comments.

Inside knowledge? Oh I love a good pun…

IrishPete12:56 pm 31 Jan 13

Proboscus said :

It just proves that even in a Human Rights compliant environment, such as the world class facility at Hume, s***bags will always conduct themselves as s***bags – it’s in their DNA.

That’s a somewhat broad statement. It’s mainly in their upbringing rather than their DNA. But your point stands – Human Rights compliance on its own isn’t going to change an offender’s behaviour.

Proboscus12:08 pm 31 Jan 13

It just proves that even in a Human Rights compliant environment, such as the world class facility at Hume, s***bags will always conduct themselves as s***bags – it’s in their DNA.

James_Ryan10:13 am 31 Jan 13

I’m not referring to the minister’s comments.

IrishPete7:38 am 31 Jan 13

James_Ryan said :

IrishPete said :

Who’s to say the guy that assaulted him wasn’t also in Protection? Lots of people (the media included) have jumped to conclusions.

No, they got it right.

If you’re referring to the Minister’s comments as reported here http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/protected-prisoner-not-deliberately-in-same-area-as-alleged-attacker-20130130-2djq6.html no he doesn’t say that. And I heard the interview on radio yesterday morning. He certainly implied they shouldn’t have been in the same area, but there could be other reasons for that than that other than them being of different Protection categories. It also could just be a judgement made with the benefit of hindsight. Unfortunately the investigation has been handed over to the AFP so we may eventually find out, if they pursue a prosecution. If they don’t, then we may never know.

miz7:27 am 31 Jan 13

Good point vg – the ACT prison is a bit ‘special’.

(And, I refuse to call it a ‘centre’ without some kind of qualifying word, as that is weasel wording, like ‘resource management centre’ for what is commonly known as the tip.)

James_Ryan10:17 pm 30 Jan 13

banco said :

HardBallGets said :

simplechick said :

It was a pedophile who was assulted .. If you ask me he deserves everything he gets!

I assume you’re talking about compensation?

Regardless of the offences for which he is incarcerated, he’s entitled to safety. And for the neanderthals who believe that prison is the place where those who deserve it get assaulted, how does this help anyone’s rehabilitation? How does this make them better people when they return to our community?

And what about the perpetrators of prison violence? If you condone (or applaud) the assault of a person because of their offending, then surely you also turn a blind eye to those who are their assailants. How does perpetrating violence on “those who deserve it” whilst in prison affect a person’s likelihood of rehabilitation if that person has a history of violent offences? Will bashing an offender make the basher a better person when they return to the community?

And what about the costs to the community? Not only is it already very expensive to incarcerate an offender, but the community now has to stump up the costs of medical treatment (the bloke might lose an eye) and potentially also the costs of compensation.

Still think a prison bashing is a great idea for those who “deserve it”?

If the other prisoner had finished the job we’d have no issue with compensation and no worries about this scumbag getting out.

But those who you’d have finishing the job would have to be released sooner or later. And what would they have learnt about society’s expectations of them?

Would they have learnt that it’s OK to break the law by committing acts of violence and murder if you think you have justification or if the law is an inconvenient obstacle to the outcome you think is best?

Is that the belief system you really what prisoners re-entering society with?

James_Ryan10:10 pm 30 Jan 13

IrishPete said :

Who’s to say the guy that assaulted him wasn’t also in Protection? Lots of people (the media included) have jumped to conclusions.

No, they got it right.

James_Ryan10:08 pm 30 Jan 13

mareva said :

And yes I condone bashings of rock spiders in prisons, to the person who raised the “counter-arguments”.

God knows there is rarely justice elsewhere.

Should the bloke who king hit him without warning or provocation, inflicting an injury that will cost him an eye, be punished for that assault occasioning grievous bodily harm? Or by condoning the bashing, do you pardon his attacker?

What about when his attacker is released from prison? Do you then expect him to have learnt that violence is not acceptable? How?