10 July 2012

Fast, Furious, and facing the Magistrate

10 July 2012 | By johnboy

ACT Policing has charged an 18-year-old man with multiple theft charges, including that of several high performance cars, after a search warrant was executed on a Kingston residence yesterday.

The cars, a Porsche Boxster, a Porsche Cayenne and a Subaru Impreza WRX, were all driven away after the ignition keys were stolen during a burglary on a residential address in Kingston last week.

The Cayenne was later recovered on Dairy Flat Road in Fyshwick, the WRX in Kingston, and the Boxster in a church carpark in Narrabundah.

Acting on information received and forensic material obtained, around 11.45am yesterday (Monday, July 9) police executed the search warrant and seized a number of items. The alleged offender, who was present at the time of the warrant, was subsequently arrested and conveyed to the ACT Watch House.

He will face the ACT Magistrates court today charged with a series of offences including taking a motor vehicle without consent, possession of a prohibited substance, theft and aggravated burglary.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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bundah3:47 pm 23 Oct 12

Update on the germ is that he will remain in custody until at least December.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/no-option-but-jail-magistrate-slams-act-system-20121023-282o0.html

farnarkler5:14 pm 15 Oct 12

PBO the man to do the job is R Lee Ermey, the DI from Full Metal Jacket and a chopper pilot in Apocalypse now. He was a DI in the Marine Corps.

Back to reality though, why not just let him go. He’ll steal another car and hopefully wrap himself round a tree and make the gene pool a little bit cleaner.

bundah3:59 pm 15 Oct 12

The magistrate adjourned the bail application until later this month to hear more evidence about possible support mechanisms for Goolagong.

No judicial officer,of sound mind,would release the ‘germ’ back into society regardless of how many support mechanisms are made available to him as they will inevitably fail due to his unbridled passion for anti-social behaviour.He is an accident waiting to happen!

Alderney2:37 pm 15 Oct 12

The court heard Goolagong’s DNA was matched to at T-shirt found in the Nissan Skyline stolen from Kambah, his fingerprints were found on the iPad in the Impreza and his learner driver’s licence was found under the driver’s seat of the Boxster.

How could someone whom it is argued is unfit to plead be entitled to a drivers licence, albeit only a permit at this stage.

Let’s hope sanity prevails, the DPP sticks their guns and the magistrate agrees with the DPP and this idiot gets whats coming to him. Society insists this villan receives his slap on the wrist; and possibly a stern finger waggling too.

carnardly1:50 pm 15 Oct 12

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/id-rather-my-son-was-in-jail-than-dead-accused-car-thiefs-mother-20121015-27ma1.html

and Mum knew where he was for 9 days.

PBO10:15 am 26 Sep 12

HenryBG said :

PBO said :

While a lobotomy only takes 10 mins to do and would have the desired effect, para training is just an awful thing to do to some unfit civvie. Make them do the old basic fitness assessment (50 proper push ups, 100 proper sit-ups and a 5 km run in under 19 mins) from 20 years ago as well.

You left out the 20 chin-ups.

Have to leave some surprises, and if he gets upset then the DS (directing staff) are also trained in traditional methods of contact counselling all designed to make him a better person.

The right instructor can polish a turd into a brighter, shinier turd, some are even better. Some can turn shiny turds into men, and then turn them into into men who turn men into turds.

I remember a man who taught me this scared the crap out me at the time because he was so bone chillingly evil and condescending, but in a good way.

Warrant Officer “Rocket” Rundell was one of the scariest persons in the Army at the time ( but not the scariest) and would give the crazy Colonel from Apocalypse now a dressing down for being so soft if he ever got a chance, I believe that he could turn these kids around.

HenryBG8:45 am 26 Sep 12

PBO said :

While a lobotomy only takes 10 mins to do and would have the desired effect, para training is just an awful thing to do to some unfit civvie. Make them do the old basic fitness assessment (50 proper push ups, 100 proper sit-ups and a 5 km run in under 19 mins) from 20 years ago as well.

You left out the 20 chin-ups.

breda10:10 pm 25 Sep 12

It’s much easier to pretend that you are dumb than to pretend that you are smart.

bundah9:06 pm 25 Sep 12

he latest on the germ is that the prosecution has challenged a psychiatrists claim that the germ was unfit to plead as he was apparently illiterate,innumerate and intellectually impaired which is extraordinary since he has was able to obtain a learner driver licence.

Psychiatrist Graham George has found the 18-year-old was “functioning well below a normal level” and was unfit to plead. Rather curious given the germ was able to answer 34 out of 35 questions drawn at random out of a 350 question pool.

Anyhow the case has been adjourned to October so i’ll be waiting with bated breath for more of the psychos extraordinary insights!

PBO10:56 am 13 Sep 12

shirty_bear said :

What is it with numpties in this town crashing into their own mates … first Mully, now the germ. Would have thought the chances of this happening ever would be slim-to-bugger-all.
Nor do I, in the main, believe in co-incidence. Makes me suspect that – in both cases – something was afoot involving all parties.
Grubs.

Maybe its a form of natural moron culling, when the herd gets too big for the local area to handle, 2 things could happen:

1: A pheremone like secretion is released from a special gland located in the areas behind the ears and buttocks which causes irrational behaviour before a suicidal zeal takes over causing them to charge at each other with the idea of removing themselves and their mate for the greater good of the herd and to help introduce new stock into the gene poo and raise the value of commodores. Douche Bogans have also developed a gland that regulates the ratio of tracksuits to bumbags in the Douche Bogans “crib” (A plural for a tightly knit herd of douche bogans).

2: Summernats

We have our own unique subset of boganity known as the “Douche Bogan”,A mysterious evolution of the bogan occurred in the early years of the decade causing a new look and new lifestyle for the “new bogan riche” .

The change was deeper than a simple Ed Hardy shirt, designer bum-bag and a squirt of joop, they started to have certain biological differences which made the different from the standard bogan, Neck tattoos started appearing which apparenlty mean something quite deep to the Japanese but would be lost on the average westerner (according to a local tattooist who assures me that they are the correct symbols), He was quoted as saying:

(Quote from “Texta”, local skin scribbler)

“Its not just VB and Tim-Tams anymore mate, when someone see’s your neck tattoo they will take a step back because you will seem so much more intelligenter than them because you have dragon written on your neck……..in asian, so tell me if i am wrong…and i am sure that i are not.

I have known the artist who drew them for 6 days and he wouldnt lie to me, he’s really asian and he knows what they all mean, everyone of them. Take it from me, when people see that bad boy on your neck they will step aside because you would probably know karate of have a ninja hidden on you somewhere.

Its a great way to get restecp and show how tough you are without having to get a whole dragon tattooed because that would blow the whole dole payment.

Aww yeah, I also heard that if 2 more C-Dores are removed from existence this week then we could see the collapse of the Peter Brock sticker industry as there would then be more stickers than cars.”

Violet689:30 pm 13 Jul 12

Porkhunt, I doubt there is a one size fit’s all approach to this or a “point” where incarceration is automatic (other than uncontrollable violence towards others). Apparently with Mental Health, the rules are that someone has to be taken into hospital if they are a risk to themselves, or others or their reputation is at risk and unfortunately this doesn’t happen all the time. Then we have the argument of whether drugs should be legalised or not (I’m convinced crime would be reduced if they were legalised). I like the idea of therapeutic communities – although the principles rely on voluntary participation rather than involuntary. There are probably heaps of people who would benefit from the structure, routine and safety of a community where they have a “place”. You know some tribes actively remove the mentally ill from the community only when they are really unwell, the rest of the time they just accept them as is. Most European countries always had a place for what they called “the village idiot”. They just accepted them as they were which probably helped to alleviate the us and them scenario.

If we are going to incarcerate people then the whole system has got to change…..not just the “magnificent” building out at Hume. I have a friend who sat in training with mostly Corrections Officers. When asked if inmates could be rehabilitated, none of them agreed. WTF are they doing out there except making money and (some) are making money out of the families of inmates by selling illegal sh*t to inmates. It’s as corrupt as the criminal world outside and teaches inmates nothing about values or reintegrating into society. There is nothing to do in there. Why aren’t they making number plates or clothes or doing laundry for the hospital. Why aren’t they given a purpose and left to their own devices in hours upon hours of boredom. I know several young guys who have been in for years (not months) and do the same stuff once they are released. How is this helpful?

What happened to prison farms where minimum security inmates had jobs and were made to help run the farm? Here we have minimum and maximum mixed together with fk all to keep them occupied. Not good.

With someone like Jermaine, I remember being surprised that he hadn’t been picked up by CPS years ago. But then again, they housed young people in the old Wanniassa Police Station……… seems youre too hard if your Aboriginal or beyond the age of three.

Jethro, thanks for your constructive criticisms and comments. I agree, there needs to be some incentive to create change – but change needs to happen in all areas of community not just left to sit with the disadvantaged.

Pork Hunt6:54 pm 13 Jul 12

Violet68 said :

qbngeek said :

Violet68 said :

Life choice? Ahhh so young people set out to CHOOSE the environment they’re born in to, they choose to have learning difficulties or choose not to be sent off to school? OK it’s all his fault JB.

Haha, sometimes the fact that you are so clueles about the real world makes me giggle in front of everyone at work.

I grew up in a broken home and lived through my mother being married and divorced several times. I also suffer a mild form of autism and have gone through several depressive episodes (including trying to suicide twice in my younger years). I was bullied relentlessly at school and had very few friends. I am now married, have two beautiful children and a career that I love. I spend my spare time gardening, playing with my children and being a geek. You know how I was successful…hard f**king work and determination. I was determined to be the best I could be and I hold myself accountable for my life.

I can quite easily give you the stories of at least 10 other people I am now friends with, worked with or went to school with that had worse upbrinings than me, and probably worse than this douchebucket could imagine, and they are all now happy, content and successful because they wanted to be better.

It is the choice of these lowlifes to be how they are, not societies. They choose to be criminals and choose to be a drain on the system. For every one of them who chosses to be that way, there are 2 of us that managed to turn our lives around through hard work, determination and making the right choices.

First of all, you obviously don’t have to work too hard if you’re on RA at work…….

Secondly, we’re not talking about a person from a “broken home”. We are talking about someone who didn’t have a fkn home. We are not talking about someone who was bullied at school. We are talking about someone who hardly ever went to school, has learning difficulties (not mild autism) and a severe substance dependence that has impaired his cognition – all while still a child. Racism and discrimination have no doubt played a part in forming his identity too.

I’m really glad you got over your parents divorce and went on to live a healthy happy life. Good for you seriously! So you experienced depression and that’s a big thing just cause it happened to YOU? You understand it and you are managing to live with it. Given your predisposition for becoming depressed, I seriously doubt you could cope with anything this kid has had to manage to live with. I’m glad for you but I do not admire you.

As for me being clueless about the real world, you wouldn’t last a day in mine

There is no doubt regarding your passion in discussing and defending people like the one in question but I have a couple of questions for you.

Where do YOU draw the line between granting bail to a serial offender and going to the AMC until trial?

At what point would YOU decide that a criminal (or victim of circumstance in your eyes) has run out of chances to remain free and HAS to be incarcerated?

Should this person be in a secure mental health facility instead of the AMC or neither?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd6:16 pm 13 Jul 12

Jethro said :

dpm said :

Jethro said :

…However, what Violet said about the need to invest more money in early intervention and preventative measures is correct. For every dollar spent on early intervention you save many more in future costs. Putting people in jail is a reactive approach to crime. It certainly has its place. But it should not be the be-all and end-all of criminal justice. Surely investing money in early intervention in order to prevent crime in the first place is a good thing?

My guess? The problem with that plan is: if the ACT Govt can’t fix a bigger PR problem that is making them look really bad to the public etc (i.e. ED waiting times), what are the chances they are going to decide to throw a heap of money at this area, which is potentially more complex and (more importantly politically) a long-term ROI solution?

You hit the nail on the head. Things that aren’t going to see outcomes for years if not decades (and outcomes that won’t ever be tangible) aren’t going to attract funding unless people can see the short term benefit.

To me, the best way to get some serious investment in early intervention is through the federal government framing it as a welfare issue.

For example, there is a fair bit fo criticism of ‘bogans’ breeding in order to get the baby bonus. I remember reading an American study that showed basic intervention with pregnant mothers in at-risk groups, where they learned based parenting skills, such as ‘don’t shake your baby when you are angry’, ‘make sure you feed your baby 3 healthy meals a day’ etc had serious long-term benefits in terms of the life outcomes of the children of the women involved in the study.

What if the federal government made it mandatory for certain demographic groups to undergo intensive parenting classes in order to receive the baby bonus? (eg. any pregnant person already receiving welfare would need to attend the classes) in order to receive their baby bonus?

This is just one suggestion. I’m sure people could think of many others.

Pretty sure that would be against heir rights and in some way discrimitory even if it does help them.

Jethro5:35 pm 13 Jul 12

dpm said :

Jethro said :

…However, what Violet said about the need to invest more money in early intervention and preventative measures is correct. For every dollar spent on early intervention you save many more in future costs. Putting people in jail is a reactive approach to crime. It certainly has its place. But it should not be the be-all and end-all of criminal justice. Surely investing money in early intervention in order to prevent crime in the first place is a good thing?

My guess? The problem with that plan is: if the ACT Govt can’t fix a bigger PR problem that is making them look really bad to the public etc (i.e. ED waiting times), what are the chances they are going to decide to throw a heap of money at this area, which is potentially more complex and (more importantly politically) a long-term ROI solution?

You hit the nail on the head. Things that aren’t going to see outcomes for years if not decades (and outcomes that won’t ever be tangible) aren’t going to attract funding unless people can see the short term benefit.

To me, the best way to get some serious investment in early intervention is through the federal government framing it as a welfare issue.

For example, there is a fair bit fo criticism of ‘bogans’ breeding in order to get the baby bonus. I remember reading an American study that showed basic intervention with pregnant mothers in at-risk groups, where they learned based parenting skills, such as ‘don’t shake your baby when you are angry’, ‘make sure you feed your baby 3 healthy meals a day’ etc had serious long-term benefits in terms of the life outcomes of the children of the women involved in the study.

What if the federal government made it mandatory for certain demographic groups to undergo intensive parenting classes in order to receive the baby bonus? (eg. any pregnant person already receiving welfare would need to attend the classes) in order to receive their baby bonus?

This is just one suggestion. I’m sure people could think of many others.

Violet684:23 pm 13 Jul 12

qbngeek said :

Violet68 said :

Life choice? Ahhh so young people set out to CHOOSE the environment they’re born in to, they choose to have learning difficulties or choose not to be sent off to school? OK it’s all his fault JB.

Haha, sometimes the fact that you are so clueles about the real world makes me giggle in front of everyone at work.

I grew up in a broken home and lived through my mother being married and divorced several times. I also suffer a mild form of autism and have gone through several depressive episodes (including trying to suicide twice in my younger years). I was bullied relentlessly at school and had very few friends. I am now married, have two beautiful children and a career that I love. I spend my spare time gardening, playing with my children and being a geek. You know how I was successful…hard f**king work and determination. I was determined to be the best I could be and I hold myself accountable for my life.

I can quite easily give you the stories of at least 10 other people I am now friends with, worked with or went to school with that had worse upbrinings than me, and probably worse than this douchebucket could imagine, and they are all now happy, content and successful because they wanted to be better.

It is the choice of these lowlifes to be how they are, not societies. They choose to be criminals and choose to be a drain on the system. For every one of them who chosses to be that way, there are 2 of us that managed to turn our lives around through hard work, determination and making the right choices.

First of all, you obviously don’t have to work too hard if you’re on RA at work…….

Secondly, we’re not talking about a person from a “broken home”. We are talking about someone who didn’t have a fkn home. We are not talking about someone who was bullied at school. We are talking about someone who hardly ever went to school, has learning difficulties (not mild autism) and a severe substance dependence that has impaired his cognition – all while still a child. Racism and discrimination have no doubt played a part in forming his identity too.

I’m really glad you got over your parents divorce and went on to live a healthy happy life. Good for you seriously! So you experienced depression and that’s a big thing just cause it happened to YOU? You understand it and you are managing to live with it. Given your predisposition for becoming depressed, I seriously doubt you could cope with anything this kid has had to manage to live with. I’m glad for you but I do not admire you.

As for me being clueless about the real world, you wouldn’t last a day in mine