6 May 2025

Public service breathes a collective sigh of relief after PM repeats his respect mantra

| Chris Johnson
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“It’s a different parliament these days,” Anthony Albanese says of his next term in government. Photo: Michelle Kroll.

Dust is still settling on the federal election, but the cheers from public servants are still reverberating not just in Canberra but across the nation.

The Australian Public Service was in for a bumpy ride if the Coalition had somehow emerged victorious Saturday night, with mass sackings in store as well as a government that, by and large, was intent on treating it with contempt.

With Anthony Albanese and Labor returned to office, however, the APS can now expect to be treated with a reasonable level of respect and dignity, and without a gutting of its employee numbers.

It won’t be all plain sailing for public servants – Labor ministers can be just as testy with agency bosses as any other stripe of political master can be – as the government returns refreshed and determined to implement its agenda.

“We’re not getting ahead of ourselves. Can I make this point?” the Prime Minister said to journalists on Monday (5 May).

“One of the things that will make this term, I think, satisfying — and which raises the prospect of further progress, rather than protest — is the fact that [when we came to office last term] the bureaucracy had been gutted.”

The PM pointed to Robodebt and neglect shown towards immigration, aged care and Veterans’ Affairs systems as examples of how the former Coalition government dropped the ball in relation to the bureaucracy.

“We’ve done a lot of work and I think we have a positive agenda that we were elected on,” Mr Albanese said.

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Parliament, however, is not set to return until after 30 June, when the current senate term expires, and the PM is in no rush to bring it back earlier.

He is claiming his mandate and getting on with it, he says.

High on the priority list is implementing his housing affordability and accessibility plans and building more homes.

The housing spokesmen for both the Coalition and the Greens lost their seats in the election.

“I note both the Coalition and the Greens’ housing spokespeople won’t be in the parliament,” Mr Albanese said.

“I think part of the reason is they held up public housing, they held up emergency housing for women and children escaping violence. They held up our build-to-rent scheme. They held up our Help-to-Buy scheme.

“I say this message to the Senate and members of the House of Representatives — we have a clear mandate to build more housing … I’m very confident that we have a mandate for that. We can’t have been clearer. If the Senate gets in the way of that, then they’ll receive the same response the housing spokespeople for the Liberal Party and the Greens got on Saturday.”

As the blame game continues within Coalition ranks, the possibility has risen that the Nationals (which did comparatively well compared to their ‘senior’ Coalition partner) might want a little timeout from the Liberal Party.

Nationals and regionally based Liberal MPs will now outnumber Liberals from capital city seats in the House of Representatives.

Labor’s numbers will swamp the combined Coalition parties.

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So when the Prime Minister was asked if the same level of parliamentary staffing and resources would be allocated to Coalition parties if they had a temporary break from each other, he was quite pragmatic about it.

“It’s a different parliament these days, and so we’ll consider all of that,” he said.

“I have always treated both the Liberal Party and their leader and the National Party and their leader with respect.”

Mr Albanese then suggested he was never afforded much respect as Opposition Leader when Scott Morrison was Prime Minister.

“I went into [the Prime Minister’s office in Parliament House] on day one in 2019, the day that parliament began — that was the last time I went in until I went in as Prime Minister in 2022.

“I haven’t got a record of how many times Peter Dutton went into my office, but it would be probably in the order, certainly at least 20 to 30 times. David Littleproud, double digits as well.

“I treat people with respect. It’s not rhetoric, it’s real.”

So, on offer from the Federal Government is respect for the voting public, respect for the public service, and respect for the Federal Opposition.

Can all this really be sustained?

Probably not, but let’s enjoy the love-in while it lasts because things will get ugly. They always do.

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Can anyone explain why we needed 41,000 or 25% more public servants in the first place ?

Only 11,000 of them replaced contractors and consultants.

Fact checkers have repeatedly shown that the 41,000 was a made up figure and grossly exaggerated the actual figure. Even LNP apologists acknowledged it included allegedly projected recruitments and, even though some of those jobs did not and may not ever exist, equivalent numbers were going to be sacked.

Megsy the 2021-22 State of the Service report had 159,469 APS on the books. 2023-24 had 185,343 on the books. 26,000 more.

Extrapolate 12 months and 41,000 extra is a very fair estimate. We’ll know in November.

Whenever Penfold presents any form of arithmetic, always check to see whether he managed to get one right.

In this case he uses the incorrect base to produce near double a fair answer. I am using the raw figures he presented above.

Contractors are not included in the APS base so the base figure for employment (excluding contractors who retained their jobs) is 159469 + 11000 or 170469. Replacing the 11,000 contractors with APS is neutral, nil growth, so ~170,000 is the correct base..

The growth period presented 2021-22 to 2023-24 is two years, and represents 4.27% annually. Extrapolating that figure for one year (fwiw) produces a total growth of about 22,790 from 2021-22 to 2024-25, far from the 41,000 claimed.

In any event, Penfold’s failure to understand something again is hardly a relevant fact for those actually managing the work that needs to be done; energy transition, for example.

@Penfold
As you will no doubt be aware, I like to look at evidence.

So, I downloaded the actual data, which underpins the State of the Service Report, from the Australian Public Service Commission – which, you can also do here (https://www.apsc.gov.au/employment-data/aps-employment-data-31-december-2024) by scrolling to the bottom of the page.

In that Excel workbook, the worksheet labelled “Table 15” is particularly relevant, as it provides a breakdown of APS numbers across all states, territories and overseas postings, as at December (more up to date than your, 2023/24 figures), for the years 2005 to 2024.

If we take December 2021, as representing the last figures under the Coalition government, we can compare the staffing to December 2024, and note that in the period:
* Total APS numbers rose from 155,248 to 193,503 – an increase of 38,255 or 24.64% across the APS, on 2021 figures;
* In ACT, the numbers rose from 59,605 to 69,438 – an increase of 9,833 or 16.50% in ACT, on 2021 figures.

As you will see in the worksheet labelled “Table 16”, which breaks down the numbers by capital cities, regions and overseas postings, the substantial majority of the APS jobs Labor created, were outside of the ACT – and were spread across the whole of Australia and overseas postings.

Yet, you totally support your, now defunct, hero’s promise to decimate the ACT workforce, by removing 41,000 Canberra-based jobs … i.e. around 59% of the total as at December 2024.

Tell me, Penfold, where would you live and work, if the APS in Canberra was virually shut down? Because without those public servants generating demand for local private sector services, it would be hard for non-public service employing businesses to maintain a presence here.

In shocking news, alongside the shock learning that Australia didn’t like the thought of a potato for its leader, we learn now that, yet again, an arithmophobiac has shown yet again an incapability to do basic calculations.

Colour me shocked!

JS – it probably would have been easier going straight to the SotS reports. But regardless thanks for the 38,000 number. I was using 30 June 2022 as the base for the Coalition numbers. But it sounds like you agree that the 41,000 APS number is reasonable.

Now in your excitement you ignored that the 41,000 was all APS, not just Canberra, so I’m not tying it back to Dutton’s policy. What are all these APS doing ?

Poor Axon thinks APS includes contractors and sledges people for maths despite coming up with some weird 22 000 number. Perhaps he should have looked at the SotS reports. Go figure.

As pointed out by others these figures are bunk and have been debunked. But what should have been obvious too anyone looking at the election….who cares? The Australian public certainly doesn’t.

Outside of the Skynews/very online bubble of cooked right wing culture warriors, the majority of Australians by and large don’t care that the government employs public servants what they do seem to care about is being able to access government services when they need to and that those services work.

I’m personally happy the right wing are seemingly going to continue to pursue imported American culture wars because of how poorly it has done here and how many far right wing grifters we have already servicing a very small market. Meanwhile as the culture warriors obsess with nonsense, the sensible people who have been elected to run this country can get on with talking about the important issues we need to solve to move forward.

Penfold, it’s a simple equation if you know the actual underlying numbers. APS staff began replacing contractors from 1 July 2022, the bulk of the 11k you mention. As contracts expired, there were more APS staff added taking the total to around 25k by the end of June 2024. The additional numbers were extrapolated out based on averaging and known closuring of contracts in agency call centres, service centres and in housing of certain IT operations. While the government dumped the Coalition’s Cyber Hubs program in 2023, some of the agencies involved had program and project work that carried over into the early months of this year, filling out the additional 15k number.
If you look at each agency’s annual reports and PBS, you will clearly be able to identity those funding lines that aren’t supported by APS staff, even though a senior executive officer is either sponsoring or managing the proram/project and funds.
You’re welcome!

Oh, I geddit now Axon, you think 11,000 APS replaced 11,000 contractors. That’s hilarious 😂

@Penfold
“What are all these APS doing ?”
Given that the overwhelming majority of these APS (as per the accurate figures I provided) were recruited outside of Canberra, Penfold, I expect they are providing, and supporting, government services to the over 26 million Australians who don’t live in the ACT.

JS – those numbers you provided are quite interesting. Did you know women outnumber men by 50% and almost every role EL1 and above is female dominated ?

That sure destroys the glass ceiling myth.

Utterly false, Penfold. Your comprehension is as bad as your maths. I even based my reply solely on your quoted figures to help you to understand the logic.

You failed. Shocking news, I know.

Penfold said:
“Only 11,000 of them replaced contractors and consultants”
Penfold said:
“you think 11,000 APS replaced 11,000 contractors”

While trying to keep up, you just shot yourself in the other foot.

The higher the base employment as replacement, the less the nett APS growth that you can claim to project. That is a bit dim on your part.

I expect you will now make wild claims about relative productivity. Knock yourself out with that form of ideological idiocy. Reality will move on.

Providing services hey JS. Well we know they’re not building houses, lowering power prices or the cost of living. What services do you think they could be providing given myGov is delivering 80 odd services online these days ?

As for maths Axon, one suspects you’re working with an abacus or crayons, the logic is bizarre.

Axon I’ll try to keep this as simple as possible:

APS numbers do not include contractors. Nett, gross, relative or otherwise.

@Penfold
As I don’t use federal government services that much, I don’t know what services those APS staff are providing outside of Canberra … suffice to say that a majority of voting Australians were not concerned enough with APS numbers that it affected their vote.

“Providing services hey JS. Well we know they’re not building houses, lowering power prices or the cost of living. What services do you think they could be providing given myGov is delivering 80 odd services online these days ?”

What does this even mean? It’s barely coherent nonsense. We need people who can build houses for sure, but the value of someone’s role in government isn’t measured by whether they can build a house or not.

I don’t reckon people who are monitoring terrorism threats are skilled in building houses, nor the ones working on trade deals, or the ones processing passports etc , etc…

I’m just amazed after Dutton went to the election on a platform of culture wars and got trounced that you’re still at it. Well maybe not amazed so much as amused.

Penfold. Given I pointed out to you in the first place that contractors were not APS, your responses are bizarre.

Your logical failure falls in determining a base for growth, as is evidently clear to others here who have made the same point. Replacement is not growth.

Given your previously demonstrated incapacity the moment a percentage turns up, it is no surprise you are failing again.

Your ideological fantasies have no relevance beyond others exposing your repeated failure in reality.

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