Frosted up Conder driver couldn't see the back of a bus

According to the anti-bike crowd, all you need is a license plate number to report these road menaces to the police. Yet this doesn’t seem to be happening.

Mr Gillespie said :

Salt the water?

and watch your car fall apart within a year or two… Salt is about the last thing I’d want near my car…

Salt the water?

cranky said :

On a side note, the radio was reporting that this accident closed both ends of Tom Roberts Avenue(?)

It would seem inevitable that this silly, silly lady has inconvenienced a large number of people.

Wouldn’t it be lovely if those affected could claim compo from the lady’s insurer.

Sure… if you were in the USofA!

If everyone claimed compo everytime they were inconvienced by someone else’s stupidity we wouuldn’t have to worry about the carbon tax jacking up the cost of living, insurance premiums would do that job nicely.

Obviously she was trying to catch a bus.

harvyk1 said :

A drink bottle full of hot water will do the job quite nicely, just make sure you turn on the windscreen wipers soon afterwards otherwise on the really cold mornings (of which this morning was not) the water will freeze again. I also turn the heater on and direct it towards the windows.

Hot water on a frozen windscreen? Tell me you’re joking.

Nope, not joking, however the water is hot, not boiling, and the water when passed through a relatively small nozzle of the bottle so comes out at a relatively high temp, but cools very quickly in the air, so it’s not too much warmer than the glass by the time it get there, but it gets there with a bit of pressure to push the ice away as well. I also make sure I’m even in how I place the water onto the window so it heats up evenly.

I am well aware of thermal shock and what it can do (although not from personal experience), which is why I am careful with the water temp I use, and the distance the water is away from the glass when I spray it onto the glass.

Namloot said :

This product has a higher freezing point than water
Try It !

No thanks. I don’t want my windscreen freezing up in, say, 10 degrees weather.

Or did you mean LOWER freezing point than water?

One jug of water usually defrosts my car… Sometimes a bit of salt in the water helps.l. Very rarely will it freeze back over..

I also have an awesome plastic ice scraper that I got for free for ACTEWagl many years ago.. There was a post on here about sending an email off to score one… Love it. All 4 sides have a different “scraper” including a rubber side which is regularly used to remove dew from my mirrors…..

Jezuz, anyone would think 45 seconds with an ice scraper or credit card was rocket science in this town…

harvyk1 said :

A drink bottle full of hot water will do the job quite nicely, just make sure you turn on the windscreen wipers soon afterwards otherwise on the really cold mornings (of which this morning was not) the water will freeze again. I also turn the heater on and direct it towards the windows.

Hot water on a frozen windscreen? Tell me you’re joking.

If I was joking I’d say, “A hose walked into a bar….”

I agree with Dilandach, hot water on a windscreen at -4 may have catastrophic effects. I have seen a windscreen on a summer’s day crack in half when cold water from the hose was turned onto it to wash the car. Extremes aren’t good for glass.

A hose walked into a bar, said to the bartender “can I get some water? It can’t be out of a bottle though, it has to come from the tap”

Hot water on a frozen windscreen? Tell me you’re joking.

Thermal shock is a fallacy.

🙂 just in case you think I’m serious.

The only way is to warm the car up for 5 minutes with the fan on full boar.

I always ensure that I have at least one spare warm pig on winter mornings.

+1 🙂

A drink bottle full of hot water will do the job quite nicely, just make sure you turn on the windscreen wipers soon afterwards otherwise on the really cold mornings (of which this morning was not) the water will freeze again. I also turn the heater on and direct it towards the windows.

The other thing (and I really should try and remember this myself) is if you park your car where the sun hits the windscreen, the sun starts defrosting your car for you in the morning before you even get up. Doesn’t help on foggy days obviously, but on a sunny day works nicely.

The funny thing was coming from Banks at around 8:10, it was the quietest I’d see it on the road ever (I wondered if today was actually a Saturday).

Pork Hunt said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

The blanket over the windscreen and warm water both have the same problem for me. After a few blocks the windscreen freezes up again and starts to get foggy. The only way is to warm the car up for 5 minutes with the fan on full boar. The side mirrors also fog up after being scraped if the conditions are right [foggy cold air]. Wish I was allowed to build a carport in my front yard but it will encroach into ACTPLA’s rules and regulations.

How does running a cold engine with the fan on full speed warm anything up?
You need hot water from the engine block running through your heater core (a miniature radiator) to get heat. Until the engine heats the water up, the heater core with a fan on acts like your radiator trying to cool the water down…

Modern engines, with smallish engine blocks and constructed from alloy, warm up within a couple of minutes.

But granted, this won’t work with the XD falcon running a cast iron straight six.

In our house we spray “frost no more 2012″TM on the glass prior to heading out on these frosty mornings. This product has a higher freezing point than water and instantly melts the ice. It also prevents the ice from reforming while your vehicle is warming up. This is readly available from most supermarkets. It is also known as methylated spirits.

Try It !

Pork Hunt said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

The blanket over the windscreen and warm water both have the same problem for me. After a few blocks the windscreen freezes up again and starts to get foggy. The only way is to warm the car up for 5 minutes with the fan on full boar. The side mirrors also fog up after being scraped if the conditions are right [foggy cold air]. Wish I was allowed to build a carport in my front yard but it will encroach into ACTPLA’s rules and regulations.

How does running a cold engine with the fan on full speed warm anything up?
You need hot water from the engine block running through your heater core (a miniature radiator) to get heat. Until the engine heats the water up, the heater core with a fan on acts like your radiator trying to cool the water down…

Um..der! That’s why it takes 5 minutes do defrost, waiting for the engine to actually get warm. As for the heater core acting like a radiator, yes, but not until the thermostat opens in the engine which won’t be until around 100 degrees celsius. Until that time, the water doesn’t circulate through the heater.

Wily_Bear said :

gooterz said :

Maybe she thought it was fog.

I still dont see why women have cheaper insurance.

Where in the ACT Policing release was the offending driver referred to as being female?

“whose view was obscured by frost on her windscreen

Mr Gillespie said :

Jono said :

Does anyone know a good translation engine? I tried to put the above through Babelfish to find out what it meant, but it doesn’t have a “Gibberish to English” category available.

I think what you’re trying to translate is the points I am making, rather than the language I am using.

THINK McFly THINK!

Garages & carports = cars parked in shelter so they don’t get frosted

Garages not seen as “luxuries” = EVERYONE (not just the “well off”) can park their car so it doesn’t get frosted

More responsible spending of money and resources on things like sheltered facilities for cars to be parked = cars in a safer condition

Are you getting my drift so far?

Why do you need Google Translate or Babelfish to translate commonsense like this??

Because you are yabbering on about absolute b*llsh/t!
Anyway, I witnessed the accident & it was a cyclist who threw ice on her windscreen as they passed her. Luckly, legislation has been introduced making it mandatory for cyclists to be registered and display number plates. Now I suspect they will suffer the same fate as “Jim”!

Wily_Bear said :

gooterz said :

Maybe she thought it was fog.

I still dont see why women have cheaper insurance.

Where in the ACT Policing release was the offending driver referred to as being female?

In the second line of the second paragraph.

Felix the Cat said :

Tetranitrate said :

Pretty irresponsible to be driving around with so little visibility that you ran into a bus!

I just can’t believe anyone could be so thick. A couple of saucepan fulls of tapwater is usually enough to disrupt frost enough that windscreen wipers can clear it anyway, I just can’t see how anyone could consider driving without clearing it.

Pouring water on the windscreen can make the problem worse (especially warm/hot water) as it can freeze up again as you drive. Best thing to do is to scrape it off with a credit card or similar shaped object.

A ‘flat-packed’ cardboard box over the windscreen with the wipers holding it on is a good way of preventing the frost getting on there in the first place, but you still need to clear the side and rear windows. You could put a large sheet over the roof and cover all the windows but it may be a bit wet and cold to take off, but I guess wet and cold is better than running into a bus – or worse.

I really don’t find re-freezing to be a big issue personally. Wipers remove most of the water. For some reason the rear and side windows never seem to get as thick a layer of frost as the windscreen – perhaps because they’re closer to vertical.

By the time ACTPOL got there, the driver had been removed from the scene, and ACTION had a person on site directing traffic around the scene when I went past about 7:35.

Greatly inconvenienced? Nah. Maybe I was just lucky. I’ve had worse traffic when I’ve been leaving for work and the papist masses have been dropping the tribals off to before school care.

gooterz said :

Maybe she thought it was fog.

I still dont see why women have cheaper insurance.

Where in the ACT Policing release was the offending driver referred to as being female?

Mr Gillespie said :

Jono said :

Does anyone know a good translation engine? I tried to put the above through Babelfish to find out what it meant, but it doesn’t have a “Gibberish to English” category available.

I think what you’re trying to translate is the points I am making, rather than the language I am using.

THINK McFly THINK!

Garages & carports = cars parked in shelter so they don’t get frosted

Garages not seen as “luxuries” = EVERYONE (not just the “well off”) can park their car so it doesn’t get frosted

More responsible spending of money and resources on things like sheltered facilities for cars to be parked = cars in a safer condition

Are you getting my drift so far?

Why do you need Google Translate or Babelfish to translate commonsense like this??

Kudos for the BTTF reference.

With regards to everything else…. you, sir, are a moron.

Mr Gillespie said :

johnboy said :

I’m sure everyone who doesn’t have the luxury of a garage will really appreciate that advice.

Just saying Johnboy that with all this emphasis on “saving the planet from climate change on global warming” the dollars spent on measures to “combat climate change” could be better spent on shelter for cars that are otherwise parked out in the open exposed to frost, and to proper housing designs and more and better housing, and curbs to this ever-growing population.

A garage doesn’t have to be a luxury, if housing was made less expensive, not more, while we pay extra because of this “climate change” bulls*** being forced down our throats.

Best post ever… although I think you left out the cyclists.

wildturkeycanoe said :

The blanket over the windscreen and warm water both have the same problem for me. After a few blocks the windscreen freezes up again and starts to get foggy. The only way is to warm the car up for 5 minutes with the fan on full boar. The side mirrors also fog up after being scraped if the conditions are right [foggy cold air]. Wish I was allowed to build a carport in my front yard but it will encroach into ACTPLA’s rules and regulations.

How does running a cold engine with the fan on full speed warm anything up?
You need hot water from the engine block running through your heater core (a miniature radiator) to get heat. Until the engine heats the water up, the heater core with a fan on acts like your radiator trying to cool the water down…

The blanket over the windscreen and warm water both have the same problem for me. After a few blocks the windscreen freezes up again and starts to get foggy. The only way is to warm the car up for 5 minutes with the fan on full boar. The side mirrors also fog up after being scraped if the conditions are right [foggy cold air]. Wish I was allowed to build a carport in my front yard but it will encroach into ACTPLA’s rules and regulations.

Mr Gillespie said :

johnboy said :

A garage doesn’t have to be a luxury, if housing was made less expensive, not more, while we pay extra because of this “climate change” bulls*** being forced down our throats.

That so explains houses without garages for the last 30 years.

gentoopenguin said :

Kim F said :

A Volvo driver in Deakin almost cleared me up as I walked to walk. With the sun in his eyes and a 2 inch layer of frost on his windscreen, he managed to mount the curb 20 metres in front of me. If I had been a bit earlier, he would have got me.

Mate, you didn’t have to explain any further than “a Volvo driver”. Says it all already!!

It’s a shame the new V40 with pedestrian airbags aren’t on sale in Australia yet.

cranky said :

Wouldn’t it be lovely if those affected could claim compo from the lady’s insurer.

Ummmmmm, no. That would basically signal the end of a decent society if people expected compo for being inconvenienced.

Tetranitrate said :

Pretty irresponsible to be driving around with so little visibility that you ran into a bus!

I just can’t believe anyone could be so thick. A couple of saucepan fulls of tapwater is usually enough to disrupt frost enough that windscreen wipers can clear it anyway, I just can’t see how anyone could consider driving without clearing it.

Pouring water on the windscreen can make the problem worse (especially warm/hot water) as it can freeze up again as you drive. Best thing to do is to scrape it off with a credit card or similar shaped object.

A ‘flat-packed’ cardboard box over the windscreen with the wipers holding it on is a good way of preventing the frost getting on there in the first place, but you still need to clear the side and rear windows. You could put a large sheet over the roof and cover all the windows but it may be a bit wet and cold to take off, but I guess wet and cold is better than running into a bus – or worse.

Jono said :

Does anyone know a good translation engine? I tried to put the above through Babelfish to find out what it meant, but it doesn’t have a “Gibberish to English” category available.

I think what you’re trying to translate is the points I am making, rather than the language I am using.

THINK McFly THINK!

Garages & carports = cars parked in shelter so they don’t get frosted

Garages not seen as “luxuries” = EVERYONE (not just the “well off”) can park their car so it doesn’t get frosted

More responsible spending of money and resources on things like sheltered facilities for cars to be parked = cars in a safer condition

Are you getting my drift so far?

Why do you need Google Translate or Babelfish to translate commonsense like this??

gentoopenguin said :

Mate, you didn’t have to explain any further than “a Volvo driver”. Says it all already!!

Libel! I used the tried and true bucket of water method to get the frost off my giant Volvo Wagon before heading out with lights and hat on.

Kim F said :

A Volvo driver in Deakin almost cleared me up as I walked to walk. With the sun in his eyes and a 2 inch layer of frost on his windscreen, he managed to mount the curb 20 metres in front of me. If I had been a bit earlier, he would have got me.

Mate, you didn’t have to explain any further than “a Volvo driver”. Says it all already!!

Maybe she thought it was fog.

I still dont see why women have cheaper insurance.

geeks may appreciate this tip.Grab a couple of old hard drives and pull out the rare earth magnets tie them into the corners of old an sheet then throw it over your windscreen then Clack it’s held on securely and easily taken off again.

Mr Gillespie said :

Just saying Johnboy that with all this emphasis on “saving the planet from climate change on global warming” the dollars spent on measures to “combat climate change” could be better spent on shelter for cars that are otherwise parked out in the open exposed to frost, and to proper housing designs and more and better housing, and curbs to this ever-growing population.

A garage doesn’t have to be a luxury, if housing was made less expensive, not more, while we pay extra because of this “climate change” bulls*** being forced down our throats.

Does anyone know a good translation engine? I tried to put the above through Babelfish to find out what it meant, but it doesn’t have a “Gibberish to English” category available.

On a side note, the radio was reporting that this accident closed both ends of Tom Roberts Avenue(?)

It would seem inevitable that this silly, silly lady has inconvenienced a large number of people.

Wouldn’t it be lovely if those affected could claim compo from the lady’s insurer.

johnboy said :

I’m sure everyone who doesn’t have the luxury of a garage will really appreciate that advice.

Just saying Johnboy that with all this emphasis on “saving the planet from climate change on global warming” the dollars spent on measures to “combat climate change” could be better spent on shelter for cars that are otherwise parked out in the open exposed to frost, and to proper housing designs and more and better housing, and curbs to this ever-growing population.

A garage doesn’t have to be a luxury, if housing was made less expensive, not more, while we pay extra because of this “climate change” bulls*** being forced down our throats.

caf said :

You can put a blanket over the windscreen the night before.

Pretty irresponsible to be driving around with so little visibility that you ran into a bus!

I just can’t believe anyone could be so thick. A couple of saucepan fulls of tapwater is usually enough to disrupt frost enough that windscreen wipers can clear it anyway, I just can’t see how anyone could consider driving without clearing it.

A Volvo driver in Deakin almost cleared me up as I walked to walk. With the sun in his eyes and a 2 inch layer of frost on his windscreen, he managed to mount the curb 20 metres in front of me. If I had been a bit earlier, he would have got me.

Mr Gillespie said :

Another way to avoid this is to park your car under a shelter or in a garage, that way the car won’t frost up at all.

johnboy said :

I’m sure everyone who doesn’t have the luxury of a garage will really appreciate that advice.

Of course one could always cover the windscreen with an old blanket or newspaper!

You can put a blanket over the windscreen the night before.

Pretty irresponsible to be driving around with so little visibility that you ran into a bus!

Another way to avoid this is to park your car under a shelter or in a garage, that way the car won’t frost up at all.