23 July 2025

Independents for Canberra is no more, Canberra Socialists get ready to launch

| By Claire Fenwicke
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Thomas Emerson speaks at rally

Crossbench MLA Thomas Emerson entered politics through the Independents for Canberra party. Photo: Supplied.

Correction: An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated Jordan van Den Lamb had been elected to the Victorian Senate.

The political party behind independent MLA Thomas Emerson has been deregistered, as another gets ready to step on to the scene.

Independents for Canberra was officially registered on 8 March, 2024, as a vehicle to get independents into the Legislative Assembly after a quarter of a century without any on the crossbench.

Mr Emerson was elected as a party candidate for Independents for Canberra for the 2024 ACT election, but he resigned from the party on 5 February, 2025, to sit in the Assembly as a non-party MLA.

Independents for Canberra secretary Leigh Cox described Mr Emerson’s election as a “tremendous result” but said the campaign evaluation and views of supporters were clear.

“The best role Independents for Canberra can play is not as a political party. Moving forward, the organisation will look to expand its role as a facilitator and capacity builder for community independents,” he said.

“We will look to work alongside Canberra’s federal Voices movement and organisations like ProACT to canvas electorate-specific community concerns.

“Hopefully we can identify whether certain electorates are hungry for alternative representation and, if so, help identify candidates who are representative of their community’s interests and have a positive, future-oriented vision for Canberra to match.”

Mr Emerson welcomed the evolution of the organisation and expressed his gratitude for its support.

“It’s fantastic to see engagement with grassroots politics continue to grow across our community,” he said.

“I’m excited for the ongoing growth of this movement after a remarkable campaign last year that saw the independent vote surge to record highs at the ACT election, and massive swings toward independents at the federal election earlier this year.”

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Another party looking to build on the success of the federal election is the Canberra Socialists party.

Jordan van Den Lamb had a tilt at the Victorian Senate, and now the party is setting up branches in every state and territory.

He said the Territory needed the party as a “fighting alternative” against property lobbying and corporate donors.

“Canberra is a city built on the backs of workers, yet it’s become a playground for developers, landlords and the bosses,” he said.

“Whether we’re fighting skyrocketing rents, the gutting of public housing, privatisation, or record profits while it costs us more and more to simply survive, we’re here to organise tenants, workers and students to take power back.”

The party is in the process of registration, with more than 100 ACT residents already on the books.

Interim secretary Elliot Downes felt the party would fill a missing void in Canberra’s political landscape.

“Canberra is often described as Australia’s most progressive city, but well over a thousand people are homeless on any given night,” he said.

“For too long, politics in Canberra has been dominated by Labor, who have sold off vital public housing and offered nothing to the workers who make this city run.

“We need an openly socialist voice in Canberra politics, and that hasn’t existed until now.”

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Sounds very Canberra,a socialist party to go against the communist party we currently have in power

LOL I highly doubt that. Most Canberrans I talk to don’t even know what Communism or Socialism is!

Peter Macquarie11:09 pm 18 Jul 25

Given the party was set up to give Thomas the best chance of getting elected, and it worked, I guess he no longer needs it.

Here we go again, all these hysterical and obnoxious Liberals out of sorts and out of government infesting the feedback columns with their frenzied outbursts against Socialism and Communism.

Socialism isn’t Communism FGS and neither of them are illegal!

We have a Socialist government in Australia, only just recently re-elected overwhelmingly and legitimately, turfing out a corrupt Liberal conservative government just three years ago and holding power in 5 of our 8 states and territories.

Get over it!

Here we go again another ignoramus claiming socialism is the way forward and that liberals are corrupt, but of course Labor is as honest as the day is long right.

They all vote green too, what a coincidence.

It’s Michael M again, always so vocal in railing against lefty governments and never ending quest to connect with his cerebral side!

Oh it’s JackD again spruiking his lefty ideologies in order to achieve sustainable outcomes. Grow up mate.

What’s wrong with “sustainable outcomes”, Michael?

They’re government buzz words that are spruiked by low level ASO staff like yourself and achieve nothing but notes in a meeting.

What a cooked response that is wrong on every point.

Solid argument. lol.

True but as I mentioned previously, most Canberrans don’t know what Communism or Socialism is. I know this because I got sick to death of having to explain these things to people. I think that’s an indicator of the real problem, an overwhelming and widespread ignorance.

Karl with the “things that did not happen” news. IDK why you keep posting that comment about having to explain communism/socialism to Canberrans but it doesn’t pass the sniff test…beside the fact that Canberra is a highly educated population it’s just not that topical in 2025.

Unless you’re one of those tedious people who relentlessly bangs on about personal bugbears that will usually have the rest of us rolling our eyes and seeking to extricate ourselves from the conversation as quickly as possible…I guess we can’t rule that out.

Clearly seano you don’t roll your eyes around and seek to extricate yourself from the conversation as quickly as possible, probably because your one of the highly educated Canberrans who have a wealth of worldly experience. Good on you

“Clearly seano you…” tedious, but I can say it’s better to be educated and have opinions based on facts, evidence and reason than posting cooked fantasies online mate.

Which is exactly what you’re doing sunshine. Your comments are tedious and I’m tired of listening to your waffle.

A socialist party is all we need. At least they are honest about what they are intending I suppose. Socialism always sounds great on the back of big profits (check the bankruptcy rates lately?), but always leads to misery and destitution.

The ACT Labor & Greens governments of the last decade plus haven’t been socialist? They’ve ramped up taxes from amongst the lowest in the country to the very highest, accumulated terrifying levels of debt, grown the size of the ACT PS and managed to deliver some of the worst outcomes for the public. It all sounds very socialist to me.

Absolutely does.

As a registered party, IFC actually gave some transparency to the “none of the major parties” movement. With it’s deregistration, it’s going underground again. It also means that aspiring indies could well have a tougher path to election in 2028 than 2024.

The last thing we need is some socialist.in power. Should be banned from registration just like communism.

lol…they’re a very minor party….maybe banning them is a tad hysterical. BTW Communism isn’t banned in Australia either.

Lol. I don’t think banning them is a bit hysterical at all. If you had the slightest clue what socialism and communism does to society you wouldn’t write such comments. And just for the record when the Berlin wall came down and communism ended back.in.89 there weren’t too.many people flocking to the east.

lol…completely hysterical and with no understanding of the history and politics.

https://peo.gov.au/understand-our-parliament/history-of-parliament/history-milestones/australian-parliament-history-timeline/events/communist-party-dissolution-act-1950

Menzies tried to ban communism, the ban was correctly found to be unconstitutional and the Menzies government sought to change the constitution but lost the referendum. And why was that? Partly because banning things doesn’t make the go away but mostly because giving governments the power to ban organisations like trade unions or other groups they might not like or agree with is a major step on the road to autocracy.

It’s been 75 years and Australia is not even remotely close to a socialist or communist government despite the hysterical overreach of Menzies which you have echoed here.

Pro-tip: If you don’t support the Socialists don’t vote for them.

Totally agree. Also, love her or hate her, I think Margaret Thatcher got it right when she said the problem with socialism is sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.

Yeah Margaret Thatcher not exact the friend of the worker, the poor or an advocate for fairness was a strong critic of socialism and yes AFAIK she never called for it to be banned.

Mostly banning things is unnecessary and self defeating. If the ideas are bad they’ll fail on their own.

Seano you can write all you want and send as many links as you want, but I know people that lived through it and so far as I’m concerned you haven’t the slightest clue about the reality.

Yeah, OK that’s dumb argument. Which doesn’t make banning a political party any less unconstitutional nor does it make changing the constitution any less problematic. Particularly when politicians like Menzies wanted to use it to ban unions and other groups he didn’t like. The sort of thing that happens under totalitarian governments.

Those are the facts, that’s the reality. If you can’t defeat the ideas of socialism and communism in a free fair democracy through debate and reason then you’re not going to beat them by banning them.

Stop being hysterical.

Australia is not, has never been, nor is in prospect of becoming, a communist dictatorship, nor fascist dictatorship. Both are to be avoided. I know or have known people who lived through each. Are you contributing to the avoidance of fascism and racism, Michael M?

Correct Michael, besides seano’s challenges with reality he’s known for his porkies too.

You’re quite right about living through communism. We visited Berlin before the wall came down and the desperation of East Berliners to escape communism / socialism was obvious.

What a weird term too – socialism, anything but social.

I love how you pop up with these non-contributions in other people’s debates having lost all of your own Penfold. And still losing here I’m afraid.

The point is that the Menzies govt tried to ban communism 75 years ago, it failed on constitutionality and it failed at a referendum…75 years later Australia is no closer to a communist or socialist government.

Of course in attention seeking you would join in the handwringing hysteria about a local party that will be lucky to attract a handful of votes but adults know that in Australia’s stable and fair democracy we don’t need to ban communism we just need to present better arguments.

The only dumb argument is the one you’re spruiking.

Thank you. I was on the border of Austria and the now Slovakia in 1976. Across the Danube you could see Bratislava in the distance. On the Slovak side there were Sentry dugouts every 50 odd metres and if anyone trying to escape and actually managed to get through the minefield succeeded they would be shot. A friend of a friend said a Communist joke in a east German pub once which was overheard by a Communist official. He got 10 years hard labour in Seberia. This isn’t made up, it’s fact

Fascism absolutely. I never mentioned a word about racism but that too

“A friend of a friend said a Communist joke in a east German pub once which was overheard by a Communist official. He got 10 years hard labour in Seberia. This isn’t made up, it’s fact”

The argument isn’t whether communism or fascism is bad it’s whether the way to defeat it in Australia is banning it. Menzies failed to ban it and 75 years ago the local socialist party will be lucky to attract a handful of votes.

Your stance is hysterical and banning them would be dumb, look up the Streisand Effect.

Don’t know why you found it necessary to quote the fact I wrote. Maybe you think I’m making it up because all you do is spruik Menzies attempt at failing to ban it and constantly have some response to keep.it going.

Here’s a thought. Go live in China and see how your human rights go. Even better go to Russia and try to.oppose anything Putin wants and see how you end up. Remember not that long ago the fate of his opposition leader and only a week.ago.his sacked minister.

Fact is anyone who could escape from the USSR regime risked everything to do so and many came here to start a better life in a free democracy.

“Don’t know why you found it necessary to quote the fact I wrote.” It’s not a fact it’s an anecdote.

“Here’s a thought. Go live in China and see how your human rights go” ….is it though champ? Did you really think that one through. Why would I do that, China being a totalitarian government isn’t the issue here.

These are facts. Menzies tried to ban communism, it failed as unconstitutional. He tried to change the constitution, the electorate rejected it. 75 later the socialist party is nowhere near power in Australia, never has been and never will be.

Banning them would likely only help them (see the Streisand effect), it would also open the country up to the sorts of problems that come with governments that can shutdown groups they don’t like…you know like in China and Russia.

Time to stop being hysterical and live in the real world champ.

If anyone is being hysterical sunshine it’s you. Not fault you have zero understanding of what actually happens in thecreal world except for your Google searches. Time to wake up to what’s really going on mate

It kinda is your fault you don’t understand history or politics, but it’s very clear you don’t wish to be informed and therefore your hysterical overreaction to a very minor party can be dismissed, mate.

You’re so deluded. I totally understand history and politics, especially the effects of communism on society, but you go ahead and do.more google searches because that’s you’re forte.

I understand history and politics which you seem not to.

Banning political parties you don’t like is unconstitutional (see Menzies attempt to ban communism), problematic and a road to the sort of fascism you’re apparently in hysterics over (see Menzies seeking to ban unions and other groups), rejected by the electorate (see Menzies failed referendum), pointless (see the AEC for the number of elected communist/socialist candidates which is if not zero is close to it) and could potentially help an insignificant minor party (look up the Streisand affect).

What I understand is you can’t argue a point because you haven’t got one.

The only delusion are people who think they are a font of all knowledge on subjects that clearly are highly subjective in many ways, and dismissive of any opinions that don’t completely align with their own.

Yes, imagine people who can’t tolerate different opinions. 😅

Michael M, facts are not confirmed by second or third hand anecdote. Even if I assume your anecdote is true, then you have confirmed that dictatorships are bad, for that is what China and Russia are. I am not aware of any “free” or “democratic” communist society. That has nothing to do with socialism. Your conflation of the two merely shows how little you know of the subject.

Why is it that I have not seen you write a single word against modern instances of extreme right, proto-fascistic policies in current or formerly democratic countries? Those on the right, not the left? You did say you were against fascism, yet never have you written against things like suppression of the press, discrimination against minority groups. In fact, you want to suppress speech yourself, ban parties in a democracy, against our democratic Constitution.

You can assume what you like. It wasn’t an anecdote it was fact and I really don’t care if you refuse to believe that. I understand what it’s like in a Communist regime and if you did you wouldn’t be so negative of people who despise it.

An anecdote is not a fact because you say so Michael that’s literally not how facts work.

But it is a fact that no one is arguing in defence of communism here, so you histrionics add nothing to your point. Communism bad ‘mkay we get it.

You’ve had it explained to you why legally, historically, politically and by any standard of reason banning parties in free democracy like Australia makes no sense and is hugely problematic. Issue to which you’ve had no answer other than carrying on about it as if you know some secret about communism that we all don’t understand, which only serves to make you sound like the proverbial “old man shouts at cloud”.

“Yes, imagine people who can’t tolerate different opinions” …worse, imagine people who can’t form cogent arguments to win debates and therefore are reduced to whinging and emojis.

Penfold attacked Michael M’s desire to suppress dissent. His comment is otherwise without meaning or sensible purpose.

I really couldn’t care what you think seano. I know what I know and what I said was fact. You can chose to think what you want. You’re just another “educated” canberran with tunnel vision.

Michael M makes total sense. It was seano and JS9 who i was having a chuckle at.

Complete inabilities to process anything that sits outside the narrow blinkers, aka groupthink. But to be fair they’re not alone.

Tunnel vision, yes indeed. Aka blinkers. 🐴 Giddee up !

“Penfold attacked Michael M’s desire to suppress dissent”…then you haven’t met him, he was having a bitter whinge because someone else also with cooked views was also losing a debate.

” I know what I know and what I said was fact. ” Your anecdotes are irrelevant, they don’t change the fact that banning minor political parties in a free western democracy like ours is unconstitutional, rejected by the electorate, problematic for a variety of sensible reasons and self-defeating. Points you haven’t challenged because you have neither the facts nor the wit.

“You’re just another “educated” Canberran with tunnel vision.” better to be educated and reasoned than posting completely cooked drivel and expecting to be taken seriously.

Your use of the term “credibility” earlier was humorous seano.

Losing must be getting to you because once again you’ve not even attempted to contribute to the topic at hand Penfold. “Credibility”, indeed.

“We need an openly socialist voice in Canberra politics, and that hasn’t existed until now.”

Wrong, the Democratic Socialist Perspective (previously calling themselves the Socialist Workers League, then the Socialist Workers Party, and now merged into the Socialist Alliance) got 0.5% of the vote (or 713 votes) in the 1989 ACT election, and they ran again in the 1998 ACT election for 0.41% of the vote (or 745 votes).

This group of socialists will be lucky to get 1,000 votes, lucky if they can remain registered until the 2028 election.

No Claire, Jordan was not elected to anything, he got just 1.5% of the Senate vote from Victoria.

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