23 April 2025

Labor says Dutton's APS job cuts would 'shut down government'

| By Chris Johnson
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Public Service Minister Katy Gallagher says at least 10 departments would be shut down under Peter Dutton’s APS job cuts. Photo: Michelle Kroll

The Federal Government has ‘crunched the numbers’ and says the Coalition’s plan to slash 41,000 jobs from the public service will wipe out whole departments despite claims that frontline services would not be cut.

Labor has issued a long and subjective list of how many employees would have to go from each government agency if the Opposition’s plan were implemented.

Peter Dutton backed away from the controversial policy somewhat as the federal election campaign began, and is now saying the number would be achieved through voluntary redundancies and natural attrition, rather than sackings.

The Opposition Leader has also stated that national security agencies would not be affected, nor would frontline services such as Medicare and Centrelink be diminished.

But with national security and service delivery accounting for more than two-thirds of public service jobs, Labor says the Coalition would have to shut down the rest of the Australian Government.

Public Service Minister Katy Gallagher described it as “absolute nonsense” that so many public servants could be let go without it impacting services.

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She said at least 10 government departments would have to be closed under the Coalition’s plan.

“We know Peter Dutton has said he’ll cut 41,000 jobs. He said that he’ll do it by attrition, and he has also said he will not reduce frontline services or national security agencies,” Senator Gallagher said on Wednesday (23 April).

“So, when you look at the numbers and you work through how departments are staffed in the APS, if you exclude national security agencies and frontline agencies, 41,000 jobs being cut would mean the abolition of about 10 entire departments.

“That would include the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, Treasury, Finance, Infrastructure, Education, Health. They would all have to go to meet Peter Dutton’s 41,000 job cuts.

“You can’t cut 41,000 jobs without affecting frontline services or national security agencies.”

Health Minister Mark Butler joined Senator Gallagher in Canberra to say workers at the Health Department were particularly at risk.

“Thousands of public servants here in Canberra and across the country who backed Australians in during the COVID pandemic,” he said.

“Who are just so important in making sure we have good, up-to-date health programs, that deliver the best health program in the world through Medicare.

“We’ve also seen over the last couple of days evidence and a confirmation that the Opposition would abolish the Centre for Disease Control, at a time when we’re seeing measles outbreaks, at a time when we have the possibility of a bird flu epidemic across the world.

“And knowing the recommendations, the clearest possible recommendations of the COVID inquiry, that there should finally be a single centre for disease control here in Australia to coordinate in a transparent way pandemic preparedness and planning.

“Peter Dutton is determined to Americanise our healthcare system, both in the way in which patients interact with the healthcare system, but also by copying the American DOGE playbook of slashing health jobs and abolishing the Centre for Disease Control.”

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At the National Press Club later in the day, Mr Butler faced off with shadow health minister Anne Ruston for the election’s health policy debate.

Senator Ruston suggested the Health Minister was verballing her by saying she wanted to abolish the Centre for Disease Control, because that is not what she had said.

She asked Mr Butler to stop spreading misinformation.

On the subject of healthcare and public service jobs, Senator Ruston repeated the Coalition’s claims that frontline services would not be cut, even with the reduction in size of the Australian Public Service.

“We have a crisis in the workforce. It’s the biggest crisis, I think, that is facing healthcare at the moment, because without the workforce to be able to deliver the outcomes in healthcare, we cannot possibly deliver them,” she said.

“We want to see an efficient investment in frontline services.

“We need to make sure that we are focused on delivering services to Australians, not public servants sitting behind desks in Canberra.”

Mr Butler said if frontline services and national security agencies were not touched, it would leave only 60,000 public servants to take aim at.

“That leaves on the analysis of the Public Service Commission a little over 60,000 jobs in the frame for 41,000 jobs going,” he said.

“That includes all of the Department of Health.”

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What trash Katy. I worked for three key departments and they all held excessive staff numbers. A case of political speak – a specialty of Katy!

What do all these new 41,000 public servants even do – work from home ?

HiddenDragon9:15 pm 23 Apr 25

“That would include the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, Treasury, Finance, Infrastructure, Education, Health. They would all have to go to meet Peter Dutton’s 41,000 job cuts.”

It wouldn’t go anywhere near 41,000 jobs, but reducing the amount of duplication, overlap and low value added second-guessing embodied in those departments and their very comfortably upholstered top structures would produce worthwhile ongoing savings.

Beyond that detail, Labor’s continued beating of this drum in what looks like an increasingly shrill and Canberra-centric way, together with the almost incessant advertising aimed at Eden Monaro, suggests that private polling for Labor in this part of the world is not looking as good as might be expected.

Have you seen the incessant advertising more generally in Eden Monaro? It is like it every election – I’d suggest it says nothing about polling at all, just a reflection that it is always way over the top.

More broadly – I actually think it says the opposite to what you postulate. That they feel like they have achieved traction more broadly on the public service cuts issue. Despite the protestations of many, you’ll find plenty that recognise the need for strongly provided public services, by an appropriately staffed (i.e. not outsourced public service). Whatever the efficient level may be, who knows – but it makes for strong ground for a good campaign, especially given how dire waiting times/processing for a range of services were under the last LNP government. They’ve improved a little since then, but still not good.

Anyone that is dealing regularly with any of the major public facing elements of government is a potential target for a campaign focused on ‘less public servants = worse service levels’ – and it is hard to counteract.

She struggled with hospital waiting times and a budget or business case for the tram.

Not in a bulls roar, parachuted Katy.

And totally stuffed Mr Fluffy.

Capital Retro4:39 pm 23 Apr 25

If anyone has ever had a problem with the ATO they know it still takes 6 – 12 months for it to be “triaged” and allocated to a “case manager” so obviously none of those new 41,000 went to the ATO.
Where did those 41,000 go, in fact?

Capital Retro8:55 pm 23 Apr 25

I was thinking of you when I posted that, chewy. Thank you.
You would be a great employee, so reliable and knowledgeable.

That’s why my company pays me so much CR. Correcting people and providing them factual information is somewhat lucrative.

Presumably this means the government was shut down prior to the 41,000 new APS this government has added. What a ridiculous statement by Gallagher.

Dutton might be the worst ever opposition leader but Katy is arguably the worst ever Finance Minister.
She is oversighting massive deficits & spending $$ she doesn’t have.

The latest IMF report on Australia’s finances is quite scary.

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