Has Labor now jumped the shark over public service jobs?

Went to look up your latest coalition talking point Penfold to see how this has been misrepresented but could find it…I did find this though:

“Peter Dutton failed to disclose he was the beneficiary of a family trust, Four Corners reveals”
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-28/peter-dutton-failed-to-disclose-interest-in-family-trust/105217880

Peter Dutton failing to disclose a conflict of interest while he was in cabinet and apparently making money hand over fist…oops.

No doubt the national security implications of Dutton’s family trust disclosure vastly outweigh those of Russian nukes parked at our doorstep.

The Russians don’t have nukes on our doorstep, grow up.

Meanwhile, Dutton’s undisclosed involvement in childcare centres whilst in cabinet and involvement with the shonky Eddy Groves deserves some sort of response but much like his nuclear policy Dutton has nothing to say on the matter.

Trying to drum up a gotcha out of some dodgy Russian agitprop is cute but it’s just another distraction from a serious concern over the dealings of a prospective Prime Minister.

To the discerning and thinking Australian, decades old stories about child care and family trusts are rather less important than national security.

But speaking of ABC, did you ever work out that problem you were having with food and the GST ?

Made up concerns over national security don’t seem to be cutting it for Dutton with voters though, but I’m willing to bet if you show me 4 Australian voters I can show 3 who are concerned about politicians misusing power for personal gain.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-14/vote-compass-australians-worried-corruption-politics-election/100990918

If you think national security doesn’t concern voters, perhaps you would be better commenting on the new bus timetable article.

Btw did you notice the amazing ANZAC Day turnout to support the military ? Fyi they help provide national security.

@Penfold
If you think ANZAC Day is about supporting the military, then if you attended a ceremony on Friday, you were there for the wrong reason.

I think national security concerns voters, I don’t think Russia attempts to meddle in elections pushed by clowns on the internet do though.

“Btw did you notice the amazing ANZAC Day turnout to support the military ? Fyi they help provide national security.”

Nice strawman. Its should be beneath you but it’s demonstrably not.

Any comment on Dutton’s missing disclosures and relationship with Eddy Groves, you an actual issue, not made nonsense?

JS – could you kindly describe what the acronym ANZAC stands for ?

I almost fell off my chair reading your comment. Good thing it wasn’t too far to fall.

Speaking of nonsense Seano, could you translate that last post please ?

Even the kelpie would struggle with that one.

Penfold waves the white flag again. Tedious how often you can’t answer a legitimate argument with a legitimate response.

Pushing Russia agitprop as legitimate national security concerns might work on Telegram, in the real world Australia voters aren’t interested in nonsense, but are concerned and have the right to know whether their leaders and prospective leaders have abused power for personal gain.

Well said! Too many people in Canberra fail to understand that people in other parts of Australia are very different unless they’ve spent considerable time here, as they have very different experiences of politics and life in general. Most have little to do with Canberra or politics, let alone the public service. Many have no interest in Canberra at all, whilst others have no idea what things are really like here. To expect them to do so is ridiculous. Citing cuts to different departments is of little relevance to ordinary people out there, unless they interact with those departments.

Most people are just trying to get on with their own lives and do the best that they can with what they have. If they don’t interact with Canberra based public servants, how would they know anything about the work done here? Or how it affects them? And would they really have the headspace to consider it? Most people are busily focussed on their work, their homes, their finances and their family so will not realise how massive cuts to the public service will affect them, unless they work with or for those departments or depend on them for money or funding.

Labor needed to clarify impacts on individuals such as pensioners, war veterans, those depending on improvements in policy and practice in health, aged care, child care etc.

The proposal, today’s version, so far as I know, is that this headcount of 68,435 be reduced by 41,000 without touching Defence or Home Affairs staff, through natural attrition.

No further comment.

Imagine trying to run the government of approaching 27 million people with with 21,000 public servants.

It would be unworkable. Dutton trying to import Trumpian idiocy should already be disqualifying.

We’re at the eating a hot dog the wrong way portion of the campaign Dutton and his rusted on cranks & boosters must be getting desperate with over half a million Australians already voted.

You mean it was a staged event?

Actually, Albo tells so many porkies that even his chooks won’t come at feed time when he calls them.

Thanks for demonstrating my point about cranks latching on to nonsense Capital.

Pardon the pun hey CR. He’s certainly racking them up. Speaking of the chooks, Seano’s not far behind Albo. Should checkout his latest vapour link which says nothing he thinks it does.

@Penfold
Are you also keeping a tabulation of Dutton’s porkies? The latest being his ‘backflip’ on ev subsidies … apparently he has trouble understanding questions directed to him.

Probably he is choking on a hot dog cooked by Albo.
Yeah I don’t know what that means either but Seano will.

JS – when did a backflip become a porky ? Changing your position is rather different to lying in front of the entire nation about falling off a stage.

Speaking of questions, how grumpy was Albo yesterday when he was asked about the aforementioned porky. He looked like he was going to bust a boiler.

CR – does Albo cook ? We’ve heard relentlessly how he was brought up by a single mum in the most impoverished of surroundings, but i can’t recall him mentioning cooking.

@Capital Retro
Having admitted that even you don’t know what you mean, when you post, CR, perhaps you now understand why so many, on here, subscribe to your “pile on team”.

I like it when you try to be clever and witty Retro, a bit like a dog trying to use cutlery…amusing but ultimately pointless.

@Penfold
Oh OK, I forgot … backflipping, to you, is only a porky when Albo does it – a la the backflip on tax cuts, etc. Got it.

Penfold raises an important question of trust and distrust, so he will be interested in the Roy Morgan poll:
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/9772-roy-morgan-trust-and-distrust-in-politics-federal-election-webinar-press-release

According to the poll, Dutton is the most distrusted leader, more distrusted than Albanese by a factor of 220%, and worse than Clive Palmer, Donald J Trump or Vladimir V Putin.

It is good to see that Barnaby Joyce, Michaelia Cash, and Angus Taylor have shown sufficient endeavour to keep up their top-ten distrust levels over three years, no careless backsliding.

The politician with the highest net trust score today is David Pocock.

Enjoy.

They lived on gravel salads.

Well Holocene, it’s hardly surprising that Wong has dropped off the list. If you treat Israel the way she has, you’re not going to make many friends. As for Pocock, despite his policies he seems like a decent bloke. He was the only independent or green to sit through Linda Reynolds great valedictory speech and so hats off to him.

JS – yes Albo didn’t backflip on the stage 3 tax cuts, he simply lied. Said he would support them and then didn’t. Despite my dislike of Albo’s Prime Ministership i still think he’s a decent bloke. Last year he invited Mrs P and I to his house and he and Jodie were kind enough to greet us to the door. Almost had my hand amputated afterwards but instead settled for half a Dettol factory of wipes. They invited us back this year, Mrs P rocked up. I was worried about having a couple of sherbets and giving Albo a bit of a welcome to my country, if you know what i mean, and embarrassing Mrs P so decided against it. I’ve met him a couple of times over the years and he can be colourful indeed, especially after a sherbet or two.

@Penfold
You try to differentiate between backflipping (which you attribute to Dutton) on a policy, and lying (which you inconveniently attribute to Albanese) about it; when in reality it’s one and the same … at the end of the day, it results in a change to that policy.

As I’ve said before, all politicians lie in one form or another – it’s Howard’s classic ‘get out of jail free’ card of core/non-core policy, or to put it into perspective, degrees of lying.

I haven’t tried to find an example, but I’m sure that even Pocock, for whom, as previously stated, I have respect as a politician, has backflipped/lied on progressing some of his pre-election policies; probably something to do with, the very real political criterion of practicality.

While I question it’s relevance to anything being discussed, nice personal anecdote.

Penfold, no-one really cares whether Albo tripped, slipped or fell, nor how he describes what he experienced, as only he knows the answer to that. Making a fuss over this is a desperate desire to attack someone without any ammunition. Most of us have more important things to think about.

The difference, JS, is that Dutton didn’t stand in front of voters and get elected on his promise. Albanese did. “No changes to stage 3 tax cuts”. He then changed the stage 3 tax cuts so it’s clearly a porky. Changing a policy is fine for any side. Changing it after you’ve been voted in based on the promise, is not. Likewise the $275 power bill relief, no changes to immigration, superannuation and so on. And yet it appears he’ll get re-elected. How low is politics these days ?

JWH was criticised for his “never ever” GST pledge, but he changed the policy and took it to an election and got in by the skin of his teeth.

As for Pocock, he’s certainly told porkies to industry around Senate voting intentions. But he doesn’t demonstrate the hypocrisy that a few high-profile teals do. Hopefully they get turfed out.

Nice try psycho. Agreed that nobody really cares that he slipped. But lying about it was a shocker. He he was falling off the stage for all the world to see, then he denied it. Is this the character of someone who should be running our country ? He’s spent three years blaming everyone else for everyone of his stuff ups. A leader should take responsibility.

If Albo did try to spin his stumble, it would be to make sure people didn’t equate him to Howard who tripped over every stage and step in the country or knocked over jugs of water at official lunches/dinners (I personally witnessed a few). It happened so frequently that the press stopped reporting it because it fell into the “same old, same old” category.

@Penfold
So, what you are saying is that you believe Dutton’s promises, simply because he hasn’t yet been elected as PM. OK – you are entitled to your naivete, or blind loyalty, as the case may be.

As for JWH? Do you recall the Libs pledging before the 2004 election, to keep interest rates at record lows? Then, official rates rose from 5.25% at the time of the election, to 6.75%, just before Howard was turfed out. Perhaps politics was low even back in 2004.

Oh and can you provide evidence that Pocock “told porkies”, i.e. lied, to industry “around Senate voting intentions”?

Perhaps Howard did megsy though i can’t remember any of those. But Howard wouldn’t have denied it. Albanese did.

Remember early in the campaign when he was asked about the $275 energy price cut porky, he threw Reputex (the 2022 modellers) under the bus. Apparently it was “their” modelling. In 2022 he waved their modelling and described it as the most comprehensive modelling in history. You can’t trust this bloke to do anything he says.

No JS, i’m saying it’s fine to change your position. But when you make a commitment then break it, that’s a porky. If Dutton wins next week then backflips on the EV position, that would be a porky.

JWH didn’t pledge record low interest rates, he said interest rates would always be lower under a Coalition government. It’s a great line because it can never be proven or unproven.

As for Pocock no i’m not going to provide you the evidence but rest assured it happened. He said he’d vote one way then voted the other. You did say you were certain he’d lied – i’m just confirming it for you.

“You can’t trust this bloke to do anything he says.” If you are right Penfold then there are a few things I would like him to do differently, so I am another of those hoping for a set of centrist independents.

Dutton’s only problem is that no-one has any idea whether this week’s proposal will be the next week’s backflip with pirouette and pike so no-one knows what he will do, including himself. The important thing is that he not do most of the things he has “promised” so far. The indecisive pseudo-Trumpian is unfit for government. You could see that from the moment he started contemplating nice harbour views when the election had barely started, a place 300 Km from his office and nearly 1000 Km from his constituents. Dedicated to himself and multi-backflips since, when he realised he might not get his cushy home.

Nuclear? He refuses to visit any location and mostly won’t even discuss it.
Back to the office? Oh that policy is so last week, besides he will stay in Sydney anyway.
EV incentives? Yes we will no we won’t you just wait.
Cut services to the public and veterans? Only meant practically all of the Canberra workforce so just ignore the fact local services will no longer function. Besides, salivating contractors can’t just pay themselves you know.

No wonder he is totally distrusted. It is a sound assessment by voters polled.

@Penfold
Oh so it’s the timing of the backflip that determines if it’s a lie or not … got you.

And you might want to revisit the Libs promise to maintain interest rates at records lows, which, even JWH later admitted was wrong, when confronted with evidence:
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/howard-admits-breaking-promise-to-keep-rates-low-20071027-ge9922.html

As for Pocock. Sorry, you haven’t confirmed anything and I certainly don’t accept your “rest assured it happened”, as proof. So in the absence of any evidence, I’m assuming that Pocock didn’t tell “porkies to industry around Senate voting intentions”.

JS it sounds like you’re struggling to distinguish between an election promise and a non election promise. Oh well, i’ve tried to explain.

Likewise it wouldn’t matter if i gave you evidence of Pocock’s lie, you’d refute that too. Industry knows differently.

Holocene – no worries, you don’t trust Dutton. But he hasn’t delivered anywhere near the number of porkies Albo has.

@Penfold
It sounds like you’re struggling to distinguish between evidence and conjecture. Evidence stands up to scrutiny – conjecture doesn’t. Again, in the absence of any evidence, I’m assuming that Pocock didn’t tell “porkies to industry around Senate voting intentions”.

Oh and I’m pleased to see you finally accept that Dutton does tell porkies , albeit “he hasn’t delivered anywhere near the number of porkies Albo has”. I’m sure if pressed you could provide the score.

Well make your mind up JS. You claimed earlier that Pocock probably told porkies then reject it when an example was provided. How confusing.

Whether I trust Dutton is less material than the fact that most voters say they distrust him, Penfold.

I did not accuse him of lying as such so your final comment is irrelevant. I offered confirmation of his inability to offer a stable platform let alone one that makes any sense. This, and saying what suits today, leads directly to the public assessment of his relative unfitness.

You try to rebut none of this. In any case, you would have to argue it with general voters not this one.

Enjoy. I have studied the local candidates and have some voting to do.

@Penfold
Yes, I said I couldn’t find any examples where Pocock had lied, but I thought he probably had. As I said earlier, I don’t just accept your “rest assured it happened” statement, he lied to industry around Senate voting intentions.

Senate voting intentions is a pretty specific lie. Soif you have evidence, you can show that on this day he said he would vote this way on this bill, then when the vote was held he voted the exact opposite way. Seems a pretty simple ask to me – I don’t see how it is confusing.

Well Holocene if your big thing is stable platforms, have a look at your energy bill when you’re deciding who to vote for.

JS – “show me the evidence” …. the issue never made the press. And given your untrusting nature there’s little point providing anything else. I’ll just have to leave you to ponder that one.

I thought I was out of here until you raised a compelling point, Penfold. I have had a look at my energy bill, those for years past, and fair expectations for the future. I have also looked at energy production costs and reliability, personal experience and formal analyses of very large projects, large business investment behaviour, and the ratbag tatters of deniers of human-forced climate change.

There is more than enough for any sane person to keep the entire LNP to as few seats as possible.

Thank you. Enjoy.

Fair expectations of the future Holocene ? Did you happen to find a $275 saving in there ?

@Penfold
You clearly do not understand the concept of election promises. Election promises are not backroom discussions away from public scrutiny. So whatever may or may not have transpired, behind closed doors between Pocock and “industry”, leaves me with absolutely nothing to ponder.

Oh and just to be clear, I did say “I’m sure that even Pocock … has backflipped/lied on progressing some of his pre-election policies”.

I think there is nothing to see here whatsoever – so time to move on.

Such an important issue.

Yes JS, you did say that. It’s even on the record here, 10:48 on Saturday.

@Penfold
Correct. And did you also note in that post that I referred to “pre-election policies” not some backroom conversation with “industry” – whoever and whatever “industry” is? So, yes, I do have trust issues with your ‘evidence’ or lackthereof.

Why is she terminally dim? And why disrespect by not giving her, her indigenous name?
Is there racism or misogyny involved here?
All genuine questions.

None of those questions are genuine though are the Gregg which is how I know my comment struck home. The true can be confronting.

Why is she “terminally dim”? Well that would be her habit of answering challenging questions with meaningless word salad. As to the issue of disrespect her website is Jacinta price dot com …so I think you’re making that one up.

The charge of misogyny did get a laugh though, nothing I said was gendered …indeed you seem to be suggesting that challenging a woman (or more likely I’m guessing a woman you support) is some how inherently misogynistic which is just nonsense, but it does appear to be a window into your own views on gender and equality which I’d suggest you examine before attempting to question others.

* truth….I think I posted (another) typo with “the true” but I like “the true” it has a nice ring to it.

It’s quite the shame that the right, since Regan and in increasingly disastrous ways for western democracy have abandoned “the true” in order to “win”, but in the long run as we see with the Trump economic disaster a losing prospect for all of us..

All my questions were genuine. I’m not sure why you think they weren’t. I don’t ask questions on here much unless I’m interested. I asked because you’re the first person I know of that has had a go at her.
I didn’t know about her website name, but I don’t chase websites, as it were.
I admire her, especially her advocacy and fight for domestic violence issues and for the betterment of Indigenous women, but I don’t agree with everything she says.
As for your apparent thoughts about my view on gender, the less said about your comment, the better. As ridiculous a comment as you thought mine was. I would hope that my support for any measure to reduce domestic violence should tell you my viewpoint on gender and equality.

“All my questions were genuine.” no they weren’t, it was attempt to frame a post you disliked as gotcha by throwing everything from racism to misogyny at it regardless of neither being involved. I see you.

Being against DV is hardly a difficult position to hold you don’t get a medal for that. Suggesting someone is a misogynist though simply for being critical of someone who is a woman and not because she’s a woman is clearly a sexist position.

Price has done nothing for indigenous Australia. I stand by my post.

Seano, just a reminder that the left made an art form of suggesting that challenging a woman they support was somehow inherently misogynistic. They also made an art form of suggesting that challenging an indigenous person they support was somehow inherently racist. I agree with you that the former is nonsense and I hope you agree the latter is too. I hope you can also see where someone may be coming from if they apply the left’s own standards when examining statements from its supporters.

I stand by what I said too. But thanks for the lame attempt at trying to tell me that I’m lying. And that I’m sexist. I’m neither.

@Garfield complete drivel mate, none of that is true. Log off Telegram and go for a walk would be your best bet.

@Gregg you can do what you like, but trying to frame comments as misogynist & racist based on nothing more than your own personal dislike of the comments does not speak well of either your views or motivations.

Isn’t it funny Sean, when someone proffers a view on here, that you don’t agree with, you attack them, dismiss them and diminish them. However, when someone questions you about one of your opinions, you get all defensive, whilst attacking, dismissing and trying to diminish them.
I think that’s called hypocrisy. And bullying.
I also don’t think you answered my original question properly. I asked why Jacinta is dim. You said because she speaks in word salads. That’s what 90% of all politicians do. She’s no different to any other politician in that regard. So there has to be another reason.
My motivation was genuine. Your answer was not. You can try to deflect all you want but it’s fairly comical. But I also think your attempts to diminish and dismiss other people that have a different view to you, is pretty comical too. And petty. I see you.
Have a fun evening.

I stopped reading at “bullying”.

None of that is true. You tried to frame legitimate criticism as racism & misogyny based on nothing more than disliking the comment. Grow up.

Is calling someone “terminally dim” legitimate criticism or just a negative opinion? I would agree it’s the latter, based on political prejudice.
Your opinion will probably differ.

Whether you think it’s legitimate or not is up to you but I really don’t care. It’s a criticism of someone in public life and as I pointed out before based on her tendency to answer challenging questions with meaningless word salad. She chose public life and to place herself in the centre of important national issues.

Nothing I said was either sexist, or misogynistic. Your tedious claim of “bullying” is yet another ad hom based on nothing, essentially it’s whining about a comment you don’t like instead of coming up with a legitimate better argument.

Twice, months apart is tedious? I think you need a dictionary. Or a thesaurus.
You berating and belittling people because you don’t agree with their opinion is the modern iteration of bullying, whether you agree with that criteria or not.
Don’t have a go at me, have a go at society.
Your denial is still comical. Thanks for that.

What are you banging about dude?

You didn’t like the comment (which I stand by) that’s fine, your choice. But point out where I’m wrong champ, if ad hom attacks and barely literate whinging are all you’ve got you’re wasting both of our time.

I was wondering how long it would take you to use the word champ.

I was wondering how long it would take you to get to a legitimate point, champ.

Still waiting for you to say something legitimate, intelligent and interesting.
I know, it’s going to take awhile.
By the way, another genuine question. Would you feel the same way about Jacinta if she was left of centre, rather than right?
And the reason I ask is this. I’m centre right, but I don’t like Peter Dutton. He makes it a struggle to vote that way.

Gregg – asking for all three in one comment is as likely as winning lotto.

For someone who supposedly doesn’t find my comments “interesting” you’ve spent a lot time trying and failing to brand them as something they’re not.

None your questions were genuine, as I have demonstrated, they’re about your politics and your personal dislike of criticism of a woman you support.

I’m also uninterested in your “what if” question, “Jacinta” (apparently we’re not using her full name, didn’t someone suggest somewhere that might be racist, hmm …seems pretty silly really). Price’s politics are what they are, my opinions of her are based on her words an actions. From the bad faith spread of misinformation to buying into Dutton’s dumb Musk-like gutting of the public service for no other reason than to score points in the culture wars she’s a fool.

@Penfold – another non contribution, well done.

It was a maths comment Seano, thank you as expected for playing and missing.

It was irrelevant, as usual.

You haven’t demonstrated anything. And, if you think you have, then your delusional. Sad really, as I thought you were more intelligent than that. Maybe you’re not self aware.
Oh well

Have you always been concerned by first nations people’s respect and welfare, or only on this issue?

Lol Gregg mate, you replied to a fairly harsh criticism (but fair) criticism of Price by claiming misogyny and racism based on nothing more than disliking the comment and you haven’t stop with the ad homs since.

I’d suggest it’s not me who is either delusional or lacking self-awareness.

@Bevan
“Have you always been concerned by first nations people’s respect and welfare, or only on this issue?”

Given he equated not using Price’s full indigenous name as racism, even though she her self doesn’t always use it, including on her website I’m guessing you’ve spotted what I spotted, it was a self-serving, cherry picked one off “concern” over respect for indigenous people.

If the answer is directed at me Bevan, than yes, very much so. It’s part of my family heritage.

@Penfold
Yet the Libs are also claiming they will lower power prices, build more houses, etc. and you accept these ‘promises’ without question, even defend them.

You might even garner some credibility, if you objectively (emphasis on objectively) examine both of the major parties statements, rather than your usual jaundiced bias.

Well JS the article is about Labor’s shark jumping, I’m just adding to the list.

You’re sounding like a bit of a teal there, demanding “objectivity” yet constantly attacking the Coalition and complaining about bias. Pot, kettle ?

@Penfold
Nice deflection. Thee article is about the proposal the potential sacking of 41,000 public servants. You simply used it to have yet another of your anti-Labor rants – which I have then suggested would be more objective if you applied the same standard to Liberal announcements.

You use the term ‘Teal’ as if it’s an insult – which really shows how biased you are. I’m definitely pro-independent, and have never shied from that. Unlike you, and your fawning to the Coalition, I’ve acknowldeged faults in both major parties.

Yes JS, teal is certainly an insult. It means preaching one thing and doing another. Standing on a pulpit of transparency but not being transparent. Claiming to be open minded but voting with the greens 77% of the time.

The only independents who act independently are Pocock and Haines.

As for the APS, why on earth have Labor added 41,000 new staff ? A whopping 25% in three years.

” Standing on a pulpit of transparency but not being transparent.”

Explain how the teals have not being transparent without sounding silly, sorry sillier.

Well speaking of silly, who could forget Zali Steggall worshipping the climate change gods from her Toyota Landcuiser.

Or Monique Ryan running away from any microphone as her husband was creeping around Kooyong pinching Amelia Hamer’s corflutes.

Or none of them telling voters who they will preference in a hung parliament.

Thanks for asking.

I see you went the “sillier” option Penfold, not wonder really that you can’t back up your claim about transparency, all you have is puerile drivel aimed at misdirection.

It’s unsurprising that the Liberal Party is losing blue ribbon Liberal seats in educated electorates to sensible moderates with the likes of you on the case champ.

Got any more vapour links for us Seano ?

Yeah, Zali would have created a big carbon footprint when she was a global professional snow skier but she never apologises for that.

Where is the teal “lack of transparency” Penfold? if you can’t back the claim be an adult and admit it, these attempts at redirection are boring.

“Yeah, Zali would have created a big carbon footprint when she was a global professional snow skier but she never apologises for that.”

Even for you and Penfold this is a dumb line of attack Capital. Why does she need to apologise? Explain it to me.

In the meantime she’s been quite the effective campaign for clean energy so really she’s saved emissions and saved you money helping to keep a lid on power prices, I sure she’d say you’re welcome.

Maybe you need to lookup the definition of transparency if you can’t work it out Seano. Checkout “big carbon footprint” while you’re at it. 🦶

@Penfold
Wow … thank you for that startling revelation that the progressive teals voted with the progressive Greens “77% of the time”! OMG!!! How could they?

Seriously? Do you know that Pocock, who I openly support, has probably a similar voting pattern in line with the Greens too?

… and sorry, but I’m not insulted if you suggest I sound like a teal.

Where is this teal “lack of transparency” Penfold?

Because Dutton isn’t lying lo, he is a wisdom of truth only.

What do you expect of politicians?

And to be fair, their claim is fairly unclaimable one way or the other through evidence. What ‘better off’ actually is means very different things to different people.

Because none of that is true.

That’s not a lie. It’s a statement of belief, one shared by those who voted for them. Surely you can’t honestly believe that we’d have been better off under the LNP? Really? Evidence?